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- kamranACA - 03-28-2011


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<br />Salam,

Kamran Bhai I'm really amazed to see that you are still stuck in this ACCA vs ICAP stuff. I remember I was in my initial papers of CAT when I used to reply your posts upon this topic. Alhumdolilah at this stage where im doing my MSc finance and Risk Managemnt i'm glad for my decision of ACCA. Dear readers, i'd kindly request you not to follow a single opinion.
Trust in yourself and do what your heart says. And this is what I did. Here in London or world wide.. OUT OF PAKISTAN you won't feel the difference of ACA OR ACCA. I personally know my friend who was ACA(ICAP) with 10years of Fergusons experience but had to do ACCA to get job here in UK.
Well it of no use discussing such things again and again.. I'd just like to say , please do not undervalue anything that gives you knowledge. Very good luck with this discussion. and Very very good luck for WEDNESDAY ) DO PRAY FOR PAKISYAN'S VICTORY.
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Ali

It's pleasure to seeing you back on the forum. Yes, I do remember my discussions with you.

Please stand corrected, this thread has nothing to do with CA vs. ACCA debate. It is about ICAP's policy to provide or discontinue exemptions to any other professional body mainly but not limited to ACCA. The answers given are in line with the questions put, with a greater focus on the theme of what the exemptions generally entail and/or call for; AND to clarify that we should not venture in any career path MERELY on the hope of continuty of some exemptions. So, it is by no means a CA vs. ACCA debate and you have uselessly amazed; this might be owing to random reading habit of a given text which commonly prevails. I hope you are already clear on what I am telling you.

Further, sticking with a forum (OR MATTER) and visiting it after a gap of, say 2-3 years, is a matter of personal choice. Might you have been sticking up with so many other activities in contrast. So again this is not a matter of getting amazed! Is it?

Please also note that whether someone is in London or Pakistan makes no difference. The competent professionals are equally rewarded every where which is typically in accordance with the spending power in a given economy; and may be Pakistan is much better a place to live at if we ignore the general law and order situation that arose during last couple of years. Further, you cannot roughly compare different countries, their economies, job bank, growth rates, market demand and entraprenual preferences, so forth and so on. So, stating the words e.g. "OUT OF PAKISTAN" does not carry any elevation for the writer. We are in Pakistan Alhamdolillah and what we have been discussing is for the students who are in Pakistan. Personally, I am in Pakistan MERELY for the sake of my own choice. I hope this may also calm down the unwarranted feeling of getting amazed.

As far as qualifying ACCA by some Pakistani CA (in London) is concerned, this is exactly what I have been telling the fellows on this thread. I mean when you need any other qualification, you should just get it without crying for the exemptions. Having exemptions is good for every one, raising voice is also good on the grounds of equality and common interest, but this all should not be a base for our career decisions at the outset.

I once again clarify that personally I have no issue with any professional body and I do have fullest regard for all professionals regardless of whatever origin they have. These petty issues have no bearing to me, however, I sometimes reply the students as a matter of my personal choice and I believe if anything posted by me brings some benefits for others then I should not eliminate this activity.

BTW, it's pleasure reading your career achievements as well. Alhamdolillah!

Regards,



- Dard - 03-29-2011

ACCA affiliates had a better chance of passing the final examinations of ICAP due to the fact that they already completed one professional qualification and studied some topics. To ensure the Pakistani market doesn't get saturated, ICAP reduced the exemptions.
If you really want to do C.A then just go for it and give the remaining papers which aren't exempted, in six months(i think all the remaining papers can be given in one attempt). Start planning and studying now.


- ali_boy9 - 03-29-2011

Well Kamran Bhai no one can win in discussions with you p I remember I was done with my I.com. Exams and joined this forum.. and Kamran Bhai se tab se arguments karna shuru kiye hein in a respectful manner.
Jokes a part .. Thank you very much for appreciating ) it means alot to me.
And yes I do need some advises from your side.
Allah ap ko salamat rakhe.Ameen.



- khani8 - 03-29-2011

no doubt that kamran ACA is always a help ful voice for all the pakistani students of ACCA/ACA/CA/ICMA and even MBA,

Good to have such a person on this forum.




- ali_boy9 - 03-29-2011

Indeed )



- malik21188 - 04-05-2011

ahhhh i m student of ACCA professional level n u guys scared me ufffff nw wht to do no firm is getting me i m applying frm last three months


- Dard - 04-05-2011

Malik become an ACCA affiliate first.


- bilalfca - 04-20-2011

well well well.....

kamran bhai, great discussion, no doubt!
we are proud to be CA.

Khani8

I just want to say one thing, CA is much cheaper then acca.. m sure, u wrote the opposite thing!
lols.......


- khani8 - 04-25-2011

BilalFca,

I Think U R Quite Right. If I am not wrong u mean that CA in Pakistan is quite less costly degree than ACCA.

The situation is getting worse if students of Pakistan not open their eyes in this darkness which is coming to get them very soon.


- bilalfca - 04-26-2011

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I Think U R Quite Right. If I am not wrong u mean that CA in Pakistan is quite less costly degree than ACCA.

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khani8

is this sarcasm?

we can start an open debate that which degree is cheaper and whcih is expensive in Pakistan........

regards.


- alibaig - 04-26-2011

If you have one accounting body qualification then why do u go for the other accounting body qualification.If u go for the other then u will gain nothing extra.If u want to pursue your career in accounting then u should not move towards other accounting body qualification because u have already one,and if u want to diversify yourself into other area then go for the other body and feel the difference and most importantly give respect to your professional body. If u are out of pakistan then u will be treated equally whether u are acca or ca.In pakistan ,economically very bad condition u can't get a better job without a reference whether u are acca or ca.I can't understand why people fight on acca v ca


- bilalfca - 04-26-2011

alibaig

u'll understand soon!!

lolx


- faizan321 - 04-27-2011

at last icap jiase rigid body ne acca k samnay guthnay taik diya bad fail system khatam kr k



- qryasser - 04-27-2011

I am surprise that why ICAP become a holy cow in Pakistan.. They can do what ever they want in Audit profession in Pakistan, ICPA produce, Finance Manager, Internal Auditor, External Auditor, Tax Manager, Company Secretary and Manager..
They feel monoply in all jobs..?


- Muhammad Adnan Arshad - 04-30-2011

agreed with kamranACA ... !!!