Suppose you have to resolve the issue of Kashmir

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- Aaitabar - 06-08-2005

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by cpa_guy
 get rid of it. give it to india...not worth the hassle. It's ironic that we are supposedly so worried about our muslims brother dying in kashmir everyday while convienitly ignoring the numbers of ppl dying in our own country from simple reasons such as lack of clean water or quality health care
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Its really your bull **** thinking about the Kashmir cause..Do you know that why Kashmir is important for us? Do u think about the Furman-e-Quaid-e-Azam about (Kashmir Pakistan ki sharag hay). Do you now why Kashmir is important in Economic and Defence Aspects for us? Do you also know that we are doing nothing just than the political statemnets.

Our president has negotiated with india of Kashmir. So why are you worry due to Kashmir. They eat, take and uses their own; they are not baggers like afghan poor people; than why you think that they are burden on PAKISTAN. WHY WHY WHY[?][?][?][?][?]

Remember Pakistan if supports Kashmir then you can say that its due to its own benifits. Think why Pakistan helped USA to crash Afghanistan. At that time they forget Muslims...WHy WHY??????

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- cpa_guy - 06-11-2005

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Pracs
 The ideology ofcourse being and maintaining that Kashmir is the unfinished agenda of the Partition plan. Of which all muslim majority provinces must be given the chance to vote and decide to become part of Pakistan or India. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"> well that ideology pretty much went down the drain in 1971. Why don't we seem too concerned about that? Bengalis are muslims too. Now I do believe in this two nation theory, but we don;t need to be too hung up on it either. It's been more than 50 yrs - mitti pao - and move on. There are more pressing issues to be dealt with first.
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Domestic issues fine, but somethings are far more important that just bread and better.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">hmm..okay..what could be more important for a government than saving/enhancing its citizen's lives?

- cpa_guy - 06-11-2005

"Its really your bull **** thinking about the Kashmir cause..Do you know that why Kashmir is important for us? Do u think about the Furman-e-Quaid-e-Azam about (Kashmir Pakistan ki sharag hay). Do you now why Kashmir is important in Economic and Defence Aspects for us? Do you also know that we are doing nothing just than the political statemnets."

haha that bull **** is a sad reality - whether you want to face it or not is your decision. And Quaid said a lot more than "Kashmir Pakistan ki sharag hay" - much more important statements like about secularism, harmony between the different masses, faith, discipline etc.

".. than why you think that they are burden on PAKISTAN. WHY WHY WHY"

well for one thing..kashmir is one of the biggest reason for our enormous army budget...solve the problem , cut the budget, and divert the money towards economic development or other development programs for the country. Build hospitals - i can go on and on...

- Sahar_M - 06-13-2005


hmmm........ still resolving the kashmir issue .
koi farq nahi parah app ki discussions say ,

koi or creative kam kero , khali daway na kero. kashmiris r happier the way they live i.e. being indians,well i know cos hv been with them . so . SHooo.
n find some other topic to talk abt.





Y is the WorLd so full of ..............FOOLs ?????? n y am I one of them ( .
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- Pracs - 06-14-2005

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Sahar_M
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hmmm........ still resolving the kashmir issue .
koi farq nahi parah app ki discussions say ,

koi or creative kam kero , khali daway na kero. kashmiris r happier the way they live i.e. being indians,well i know cos hv been with them . so . SHooo.
n find some other topic to talk abt.
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Well, Sahar if that is the case,.. why not go for the referendum and have the whole world find out about it. If every one on the other side of the line of Control is happy being an Indian, so be it !

By the way, these discussions are imperative becasue the pretain to the indeology of our country and is no laughing matter. Educated people like your self should take more interest in these matters. Just a senior's sincere advice.

- Sahar_M - 06-14-2005

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Pracs

Well, Sahar if that is the case,.. why not go for the referendum and have the whole world find out about it. If every one on the other side of the line of Control is happy being an Indian, so be it !

By the way, these discussions are imperative becasue the pretain to the indeology of our country and is no laughing matter. Educated people like your self should take more interest in these matters. Just a senior's sincere advice.

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thnx for the advice PRACs, well i am concerned abt the matter but there comes a stage when u hv reached ur saturation poiint n get tired of the world n the increasing no. oof problems u hv to face(rather discover) every day ,n as a teenager i admit life is hell , its the worst nightmare a person can hv , most of u hving already gone through the phase will understand beta than me.
i will like to set many things to right per for tht i bneed to be something my self , u cant rule n implemnet changes while sitting at the bottom , u need to reach the top first n than i.e. if u still hv the same goals try to improve ur surronding.
n as for kashmirs i hv been amongst indian kishmiris they i guess inn a way a beta off than they would hv been in pk .....n they dont desire to be amongst us.

THE WAY WE THINK THE WORLD IS, IS NOTHING BUT WHT WE WANT IT BE TO LIKE.




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- Pracs - 06-15-2005

You are not there yet, lady ! not the real world. If you think Teenage is a tough one, wait till you get to the real world. Where there are no rules whatsoever !

I think most us have been through teenage/adolosence and like wise do know what it means. Do I smell a spoilt brat here ??

BTW,.. I am fine with Kashmiris in Indian occupied Kashmir to be happy as Indians, lets go for the referendum then... and yeah I had an Indian Kashmiri teacher back in school (thought us English and social studies) but believe me she has never been a fan of the Occupiers as she called them.

- Sahar_M - 06-15-2005

nahi u dont smell a spoilt brat, u see a person who admits the facts be4 they shld be realised. [D]...................
han i know i am not there yet abhi to cat kay first 3 papers bhi nahi hoay. uff. such a long way to go ( .


Y is the WorLd so full of ..............FOOLs ?????? n y am I one of them ( .
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- khurram_jamal - 06-21-2005

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by cpa_guy
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well for one thing..kashmir is one of the biggest reason for our enormous army budget...solve the problem , cut the budget, and divert the money towards economic development or other development programs for the country. Build hospitals - i can go on and on...
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You know how much Pakistan is suffering on Afghanistan and India Border (not on Kashmir Border)??? Have you seen borders from your eye?? Tell me what you made to help Kashmiries? If they are getting any aid then it is due to UN who gives aid to all refugees of all countries. Then how you can say they are burden on Pakistan

Pakistan is soppurting Kashmir issue due to Water and other economic problems. They are not helping without there own purpose.

About your thinking just imagine if you are thinking so hope that near about all pakistanies may also think same as. Then Kashmiries should i think no need to get into be a Pakistan or Hindustan. They really try for an independent state as they are trying from 1947.

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- sajjad_dar2000 - 06-22-2005

Kashmir issue will not be resolved until Pakistani politician takes effective stepsâ¦.

Before giving any suggestion to resolve the Kashmir issue I would like to clear that whether Kashmir is a part of Pakistan or India.

In 1947 it was decided and agreed between India and Pakistan that partition will take place according to following rule

1) where Muslims are in majority â¦.these areas will go to Pakistan
2) where Hindus are in majorityâ¦â¦.theses areas will go to India

Just applying the above rule/condition it seems clearly that Kashmir is a part of Pakistan as majority of Muslims lives there.

If I am given a chance to resolve the issue of Kashmir I will take following steps

1) In UNO demand for to have election in Kashmir giving them choice to choose either India or Pakistan. Put pressure on UNO to use his power to force India to arrange an election in Kashmir.
2) If UNO fails (more chances) to put pressure on India then threat UNO to withdraw the membership as UNO is working against the Muslims
3) Call meeting to all UAE countries and demand them to put pressure on India to resolve the Kashmir issue. UAE can put pressure on the following ways
i) stop oil supply to India
ii) deport all Indian worker back to India

If UAE donât agreed/help the Pakistani proposal and refuse to put pressure on India then Pakistan has one more option to resolve the issue without having war against India.
4) As we all Pakistani know that we have no direct conflict against Israel we have enmity with Israel due to Arabic countries, in other words hum arboon ki dushmini niba rahay hain. If Arabs donât help us then donât we care about them?
5) Threat the UAE if they didnât put pressure on India we (Pakistan) will accept Israel as an independent state
6) If UAE still fail to put pressure on India, Pakistan should contact Israel and should make following offer
i) Pakistan would accept Israel an independent state
ii) In return Israel would help Pakistan to resolve Kashmir issue (Israel can get involve the America to resolve the issue, as America is tutto of Israel)

We all Pakistan should bear in mind that western countries donât want to resolve the Kashmir issue.

- Pracs - 06-23-2005

Cannot not disagree,..

Btw I think by UAE you meant all of the Gulf or GCC countries which include the UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia and Oman. How but ropping in Iran as well, they love to get all mushy with India, the Great Islamic republic of Iran can do its part by pressurising India and holding on to the gas pipe line.

The way India relies on the Gulf Oil and that a couple of million Indians work in the GCC countries. India can be brought to her knees in little over a month (max), just a threat to expel all Indian expatriates would mount enough ''domestic pressure'' on the Govt. Of India to seriously do something about it.