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Basant # 2 - bilal azhar - 01-27-2005
Basant is about to arrive next sunday.Which door is the best.i have arranged peechas with my friend and i want to win.please tell me the name of the door which is best for "kangas"
bilal
Edited by - bilal azhar on Feb 13 2005 023037 AM
- maani - 01-27-2005
Last year two new "doors" appeared in the market..."100 Haathi" and "20 sanggal"...they really worked well...
some years ago only "8 chain" and "2 bears" were considered as good "doors"...
but things have changed jus visit "Mochi Gate"...u ll find some very fine newest brands....but the prices are almost fixed now a days...
Ace
- ali zeeshan - 01-28-2005
Nice to know new news about basant.
tell me the exact date of basant
and the beggist event when and where is happening
something is missing
- bilal azhar - 01-28-2005
ITS on 6th february(sunday) and the whole Lahore will go mad.If rain stays away then there is also mini basant this sunday.
bilal
- ali zeeshan - 01-28-2005
Thanks Alot bilal
Could u plz tell me where is the biggest event of basant is commencing .
something is missing
- maani - 01-31-2005
the real main events will be in "androon lahore"...
roof tops like PC Hotel or Holiday Inn have a "maahole" touch only...
Ace
- bilal azhar - 01-31-2005
I read in the newspaper that main event of Basant will commence from Race course park.
I agree with manni that main basant will be celebrated in indoor lahore.nothing will happen in hotels except "ayshi".
bilal
- bilal azhar - 02-03-2005
i heard on geo that some of the super stars of indian cinema are coming from india including miss world.They might have to go back because there are more than 70 percent chance of rain on basant.
Often people say that basant is a Hindu rism and to celebrate it is a sin.i think in country like pakistan where there are very few chances of entertainment especially for poor and middle class,this is a very good opportunity to lessen their tension.There is nothing wrong in flying kites unless u are on the hotel(infact in the hotel).
bilal
- smraza - 02-03-2005
I dont know the history of Basant bilal, can u tell me when it was started and what was the reason behind that??
I asked the same question to one of my friend, he told me that in during 17th century, there was a Hindu, who used some bad words for our Holy Prophet, and due to that he was punished to be hanged till death, and he died so despite of huge protest by Hindu Community. and After his death, the Basant was started in his 'Yaad'...
I dont know whether it is correct or not... any comments....?
As far as the reducing the tension is concerned, are we supposed to reduce our tension of whole year in a day or night??
As far as I know it is not the entertainment of Poor people, the person having 5000 to 10000 income per month cannot afford the cost of Kites and 'Doors' as you will be well aware of the prices of the same.
SMR
- ali zeeshan - 02-05-2005
hi,
you are quite right SAM this is not a low cost entertainment but every one can see and enjoy with this event that's the onething i like about this event and then u talked abut that HINDO who was punished and handged till death i am not sure about that it is true or not. Up to my knowledge it is a festival which was firstly started by Chinese and then it gone to Far East India and the Hindoooos were the one to celebrate this festival.
But i think if we change the BASANT to JASHN-E-BAHARAN then it would be better and loooks compromising.
- Shahid_fss - 02-05-2005
I don't see any thing bad in basant but I don't like the way it is celiberated....
- Desert Sleet - 02-05-2005
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by smraza</i>
<br />I dont know the history of Basant bilal, can u tell me when it was started and what was the reason behind that??
I asked the same question to one of my friend, he told me that in during 17th century, there was a Hindu, who used some bad words for our Holy Prophet, and due to that he was punished to be hanged till death, and he died so despite of huge protest by Hindu Community. and After his death, the Basant was started in his 'Yaad'...
I dont know whether it is correct or not... any comments....?
As far as the reducing the tension is concerned, are we supposed to reduce our tension of whole year in a day or night??
As far as I know it is not the entertainment of Poor people, the person having 5000 to 10000 income per month cannot afford the cost of Kites and 'Doors' as you will be well aware of the prices of the same.
SMR
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Some facts on the BASANT !
<b>The day of Basant Panchami is dedicated to Goddess Sarasvati.
Sarasvati is the goddess of learning. Sarasvati bestows the greatest wealth to humanity, the wealth of knowledge. In the Vedas the prayer for Sarasvati depicts her as a white lady in white dress bedecked with white flowers and white pearls, sitting on a white lotus, which is blooming in a wide stretch of water. . The prayer finally concludes, âOh Mother Sarasvati remove the darkness (ignorance) of my mind and bless me with the eternal knowledge.â</b>
I can understand that it's a a cultural thing more than a tradtion.i can also understand that some are are really emotional about it....calling "Basant" as their cultural identity. Well, focus more on ur Islamic sire den that 'Basant" side. I don't see people celebrating shab e Qadr as much as they do Basant !
Every year Basant gives rise to much denunciation on the part of the clergy in general and the religious parties in particular who even threaten âactionâ. Heretofore unknown clerics throw themselves into the fray outdoing each other in interpreting Basant in horrible details, going to the extent of b*****ng it a commemorative festival of an insult to our Prophet (PBUH). Of course officially what we are supposed to celebrate is the Spring Festival but, unofficially, it is kite-flying
Here is an Extract from the WEbsite of Jang Newspaper
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">There are demons in Basant that make it increasingly difficult for the supporters of popular culture to defend the festival. The toll on life is big. The losses suffered by the Lahore Electric Supply Company, that run into several millions each year, have led to processions in Lahore demanding a ban on kite flying. Indeed, the government has imposed a general ban on kite flying, which is the essence of Basant, many a time, allowing the revellers a reprieve around Basant time. This ban has never been effective and Lahore's horizon remains dotted with kites of all shapes, colours and sizes all through the winter and even in summer.
There are factors that lead to such observations that Basant isn't quite the popular fair it used to be. The past belongs to the people, and the present to the 'high' government officials and their mighty multi-million partners. The old saying that Basant cuts across class barriers and unites the whole of Lahore stands nullified. Today there are three Basants in Lahore, three threads existing separately. The government celebrates one Basant, the corporate sector is promotes another, and the third one involves the people.
There was a time not long ago when the festival of Basant revelled in its people's only disposition. Kite flying was frowned upon in the official circles and indeed inside many homes as a sport of the bamboo-wielding louts and street urchins. As if that was not enough, it was termed as a Hindu festival unfit for the purified environs of Pakistan. Basant then was held on a working day in accordance with the announcement of the Kite-Flying Association, and the bunking schoolboy exposed himself to lashes from his class master. This was followed by a renaissance period, where the cultural icons of the city were seen giving Basant respectability from the rooftops of their grand mansions in the company of the stars from the showbiz and local and foreign dignitaries traveling across from Islamabad. More money was thrown into it and more frills were added.
In Lahore it became a bigger, a more passionate affair than other occasions, including religious ones. Women's participation in the festivities became more visible, the number of guests from across the border increased and the time warp was broken by extending the celebrations into the night. In fact, there were so many changes hat kite flying was reduced to one of the components, rather than being the main item on the menu.
Kasur had a Basant of its own to go with that of Lahore. Soon other cities in Punjab and even Karachi and Islamabad came up with their own mini versions of the festival. The event has been growing in size and its duration has increased, leading to familiar comments that entertainment-starved Pakistanis are prone to stretching things to an extent where they lose their appeal and become ordinary affairs. Purists insist that the festival must retain its kite flying essence. They argue fervently that it should retain its sunny spring appearance, dismissing a Basant under floodlights as a diversion from the true path. All in vain, in the face of a people who have few fun alternatives available.
The government's role as a patron of the kite-flying festival is a recent one. Nawaz Sharif gave Basant his blessings, and other rulers have followed suit. So much so that this year, Chief Minister Pervaiz Elahi has himself fixed the date of the Basant festival. It is going to be celebrated on February 6, a few days earlier on account of Moharram, which is to start in the second week of February. After so many tragic deaths caused by the sharp twine used in kite flying, the emphasis is on ensuring safety while celebrating the occasion.
Yet, the feeling is that the official Basant bans have been provoked not so much by loss of life but by the loss of revenues to the power suppliers to Lahore. Whatever loss may be bigger in the official eye, it is believed that the most effective monitors could be the local bodies representatives that have shown little to justify their presence at the grassroots. They have to be employed into service in these desperate times since they are closer to the people, and we don't have too many other options to ensure a safe game.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
- bilal azhar - 02-05-2005
I think that those people who are saying that huge amount of money is lost, should think that it is through this money that thousands of poor people earn "Rozgar".
AS most of people say that only rich can buy kites and door,in a sense that is very good because this will mean circulation of money from rich to poor.
IT is the way u perceive things that enables u to make a conclusion about it.My perception is that what ever is the history of Basant,we should celebrate it as "jasan bahara".
bilal
- ali zeeshan - 02-05-2005
you are quite right bilal. from this day many people get money for their children but on ther ontherhand they also spent on buying kites and doors etc
"You say you hate me,And i know that it is true,But why cant i stop thinking of you"
- Desert Sleet - 02-06-2005
For detailed Information abt Basant plz read the below quoted post
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><b>BASANT KI TAREEKH
BASANT K BARY MAI ATA HAI K YEH AIK HINDU TEHWAR HAI AUR IS KO MANAY K LIAY HAMARY HAN HAR SAL MUKHTALIF TAREEQAY APNAY JATY HAIN DR.B.S MOR APNI BOOK (PUNJAB UNDER THE MUGHALS) MAI LIKHATY HAIN K HAQEEQAT RAY SIALKOT K AIK KHASHTARI KA LARKA THA,US NAI MOHAMMAD (P.B.U.H) AUR HAZRAT FATIMA(R.T.A)KI SHAN MAI SAKHT NA ZAIB ALFAZ ISTEMAL KIA IS JURM MAI HAQEEQAT RAY KO GIRIFTAR KAR K ADALATI KARWAI K LIAY LAHORE BHEJA GAYA.US KO SAZAY MOT SUNAI GAI IS WAQAYA SE SARY NON MUSLIMS KO SHADEED DHACHKA LAGA KUCH HINDU US WAQT K GOVERNER K PAS SIFARISH K LIAY GAY PAR UNHO NAI UN KI AIK NA SUNI AUR SAZAY MOT K HUKUM PAR NAZR E SANI KARNY SE INKAR KAR DIA.JIS K IJRA MAI PEHLY MUJRIM KO AIK SUTOON SE BAND KAR US KO KORON KI SAZA DI GAI AUR USKI GARDAN URA DE GAI,JIS PAR PUNJAB MAI SARI GHAIR BIRADARI NOHA KANA RAHI.HAQEEQAT RAY KI YADGAR KHOJAY SHAHI LAHORE MAI HAI.JO âBAWY DE MARHI â K NAM SE MASHHOOR HAI,AIK HINDU RAEES NAI US KI YAAD MAIBASANT KA AAGHAZ KIA JIS KI YADGAR BHI IS ILAQAY K QABRUSTAN MAI HI MOJOOD MAI.IS BOOK K PAGE 299 PAR LIKHA HAI KâPANJAB KA BASANT MEELA HAQEEQAT RAY GUSTAKH E RASOOL(P.B.U.H) KI YAAD MAI MANAYA JATA HAIâ
HUM KABHI BHI GHOR NAHI KARTAY K KOI BHI KAM KAB START HOA YA KIS WAJAH SE HOA.HUM SIRF IS LIAY KARTAY HAIN K SAB KARTY HAIN AUR CHUNKAY SAB KAR RAHY HAIN IS LIAY HAMARA KARNA BHI DURUST HOGAYA. BAHAR HAL SOCHNAY KI BAAT YEH HAI K HAMY KISI KI BHI PAIRWI KARNY SE PEHLY KISI K BHI PEECHAY CHALNY SE PEHLAY YEH ZAROOR DEKH LEN K KOI KHUD KAHAN JA RAHA HAI AUR KYOON JA RAHA HAI AUR YEH KAM KYOON KAR RAHA HAI KYOON K QAYAMAT K DIN INSAN UNHI K SATH HOGA JIN KA PEROKAR AUR SATHI HOGA.</b><hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Plz visit the link for a Fatwa on Basant.
http//www.practiseislam.com/cautions/basant.html
Hope my posts will clear the views of Mr. SM RAZA.
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