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IT paper, Mod D - Ali Akbar - 03-17-2005

AOA

The post is for Mr.Bilal and other students of module 'D', I want no comments from others, plzzz

How are you Bilal. How was your paper of IT. I hope you would have done very well. Although I have done absolutely outstanding, I m unhappy the way the examiner set the paper. Totally ACCA approach, too easy for those who have just studied Study Text! WOW the paper of Autumn 2004 was well balanced. WOW the paper of Cost Accounting was of Advanved level and too technical, I appeciate the examiner of Cost Accounting for setting a paper like this and I hope he will pursue it.

Bilal I am waiting for your comments.

ICAP is the best, impeccably best.




- bilal azhar - 03-17-2005

Ali,first of all let me say that u never know with icap what is going to happen,but if 50% is the passing ratio then i will pass easily but i will again say u never know with icap.

Regarding IT paper,i would say this was the easiest paper i have ever seen right from module A to D.this was the first paper in which i almost knew the answers of all the questions.

u are saying repeatedly that icap is the best,but now how is this approach.what is the fault of those students who appereared in the last two attempts of IT.The paper of this attempt is perhaps the easiest paper in the last five attempts,infact too easy.ali,i want an answer from u regarding this icap inconsistency.

OTHER,than this how was the cost paper.i heard from my friends that except for cost paper,all the other papers were just too easy.how have u done in cost paper.are we expecting another gold medal.

i will once again say that although IT paper was easy and i attempted it well, but i am not sure that i will pass it,because u never know with icap.

bilal


- bilal azhar - 03-18-2005

u are right Ali.The moment i come out of the exam centre from every paper,i know whether i am going to pss or fail.but because i have failed to pass IT in the last two attempts that's why i dont have the confidence to say that i am hundred percent sure that i am going to pass.

Lastly,wishing u good luck for the Gold medal.


bilal


- abdulmajid - 03-21-2005

if the examiner, somehow, is able to understand what i meant to say, then i am pass [D], otherwise, huh don't want to think.
thanks to akram saab i myself can't read what i have written[8D]


- bilal azhar - 04-06-2005

Dear Ali, sorry for the late response.

Ali,u say that icap dont want to be predictable.but first of all we should define what is predictability in papers.

In my view predictability means setting same pattern of the paper in every attempt.e.g,in papers like F.a,B.a,etc we know what questions will come from which topic,no of questions we are required to attempt,marks of each question,repition of same questions after a lapse of two or three years etc.

Now,talking about icap inconsistency,i believe that a paper should be average.it should be neither difficult nor easy to attempt.if paper of one attempt is easy and the paper of next attempt is very difficult,it means that students who are appearing in the first attempt of an easy paper will definitely get an unfair advantage.Ultimately the level of knowledge of all those students who have passed a particular paper of icap will not be the same.

Take an example of IT paper of this attempt.First attempted students have definitely obtained an unfair advantage.u tell me what is the fault of those who are repeaters in IT.Forget about me,i know some students who have passed all the other papers in first attempt and have been stuck in IT for more than two years.what is their fault.i guess having bad fate like me.

Setting an average paper doesnot mean that u are predictable.because u are not sure which topics will be tested,how many question will be there,no repition of questions etc all these things are non existence in icap paper.But by setting a same level of paper every time atleast u are doing justice with every student.

Due to these reasons i believe icap is not the best.Luck plays an important role in icap and u dont know when luck is going to favour u.

bilal


- bilal azhar - 04-06-2005

Dear Ali, sorry for the late response.

Ali,u say that icap dont want to be predictable.but first of all we should define what is predictability in papers.

In my view predictability means setting same pattern of the paper in every attempt.e.g,in papers like F.a,B.a,etc we know what questions will come from which topic,no of questions we are required to attempt,marks of each question,repition of same questions after a lapse of two or three years etc.

Now,talking about icap inconsistency,i believe that a paper should be average.it should be neither difficult nor easy to attempt.if paper of one attempt is easy and the paper of next attempt is very difficult,it means that students who are appearing in the first attempt of an easy paper will definitely get an unfair advantage.Ultimately the level of knowledge of all those students who have passed a particular paper of icap will not be the same.

Take an example of IT paper of this attempt.First attempted students have definitely obtained an unfair advantage.u tell me what is the fault of those who are repeaters in IT.Forget about me,i know some students who have passed all the other papers in first attempt and have been stuck in IT for more than two years.what is their fault.i guess having bad fate like me.

Setting an average paper doesnot mean that u are predictable.because u are not sure which topics will be tested,how many question will be there,no repition of questions etc all these things are non existence in icap paper.But by setting a same level of paper every time atleast u are doing justice with every student.

Due to these reasons i believe icap is not the best.Luck plays an important role in icap and u dont know when luck is going to favour u.

bilal


- bilal azhar - 04-07-2005

Ali,u might have secured a gold medal but i does not mean that u start saying wrong as true.one has to admit what is wrong and what is right even if u get a benefit from saying a wrong thing as true.

one more thing,dont be too proud of ur performance in cost accounting paper.Paper of this attempt is not as difficult as that of spring 2004 which was my first attempt in module D.

I am a student of icap and feel pride in saying that icap has very high and professional approach.But when u say that icap is the best then i totally totally disagree with u.There is a lots of room for improvement.

bilal


- bilal azhar - 04-07-2005

Ali sorry if i hurt u.But i said it what i thought is right.

And what are u trying to convey by saying that some of the members of icap view these things critically.Are u trying to convey that instead of checking the script in answer sheet,they check our views about icap and then pass us.

I never said anything bad about icap and even about u.Infact i am proud of being a student of icap.i totally believe in its exam system and paper approach.

My disagreement is totally on the phrase icap is "The best".when we say "the best" then it means it is faultless which in my view is not right.

Lastly,once again sorry for anything u have mind.my intention was never like hurting u.

bilal


- Ali Akbar - 04-08-2005

I didnt try to convey the message that they read our posts instead of our scripts. Rather you tried to convey the same message in your previous post by saying the following words

One should not try to prove wrong thing as right even if he gets benefit from the same.

What is this? Tell me in clear words what benefit can I take by saying time and again that ICAP is the best?

ICAP is the best.


- bilal azhar - 04-08-2005

i think u have completely misunderstood the sense of that sentence.i was just trying to say that because u have won a gold medal that is why u keep on saying that icap is the best and every policy and procedure(even if it is wrong) of icap seems right to u.

i did not raise doubts about the validity of ur gold medal.i think u certainly deserve that medal.

bilal


- bilal azhar - 04-11-2005

Ali, i told u what i meant by that sentence in my previous post.
i think u have misunderstood that sentence.

and thats my final post on this subject.

bilal