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Convertable bonds - eShA - 02-26-2006
hi
like we have convertable bond that can be converted into shares at certain condition (dont go in detail of that), would it be possible to create such share that can be converted into bonds, if it is possible what can be the possible benefit of it?
regard,,,,
eShA
Although this may seem a paradox, all exact science is dominated
by the idea of approximation.
- derivativetrader - 02-27-2006
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like v hav convertable bond that can be converted into share at certain condition(dnt go in detail of that), would it be possible to create such share that can be converted in to bonds .. if it is possible wht can be the possible benefit of it.
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It is possible and I think would only be tradeable on OTC market. Investor would want this security because he might have a bearish view on the stock market, and when the stock market is doing bad, he would exercise his option and convert his investment into bonds.
A typical investor for this security might be a pension fund. Assuming the PF is underfunded at present and given stock market might not do as good in future as it is doing now, trustees might invest in stocks that could be convertable into bonds if the market fall by some pre-determined strike price/level.
- eShA - 02-27-2006
thx well if this is possible then y dnt we found such funds in market despite of such extensive research in financil mkt?
well i think it is possible but not In benefit of company
how? by doing this co. might lose its share holder. and much concerted debt/equity ratio. which is again bad..
kindly elabrate me y u said that they can only be tradeable in OTC market?
regard,,,,
eShA
Although this may seem a paradox, all exact science is dominated
by the idea of approximation.
- derivativetrader - 02-27-2006
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well if this is possible then y dnt we found such funds in market despite of such extensive research in financil mkt?
kindly elabrate me y u said that they can only be tradeable in OTC market?
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This is because this is an example of 'structured product' and since there isn't much demand for these securities, they wouldn't be traded on exchanges.
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well i think it is possible but not In benefit of company
how? by doing this co. might lose its share holder. and much concerted debt/equity ratio. which is again bad..
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Increasing debt is not necessarily a bad strategy as it results in tax benefits. As debt and equity are substitutes from capital markets points of view, so an increase of one by of setting another may not be a huge problem. It all depends on case by case basis.
- eShA - 02-27-2006
let me argue this information with my teacher and then i put some more question on the same.
regard,,,,
eShA
Although this may seem a paradox, all exact science is dominated
by the idea of approximation.
- derivativetrader - 02-27-2006
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by eShA</i>
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let me argue this information with my teacher and then i put some more question on the same.
regard,,,,
eShA
Although this may seem a paradox, all exact science is dominated
by the idea of approximation.
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On a separate note, pricing a convertible bond is very difficult because you have to take into account the martingale (random) property of stock prices, correlation between stock and bond markets etc.
Good luck
DT