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Can't get in Top CA Firms - Schuaeb - 06-06-2006

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- ausmanpk2001 - 06-06-2006

sorry. i dont know anything about this. i am an acca student & haven't plunged into market yet. maybe some chartered accountant here can answer you.

if you dont find any answer, then contact icap. maybe the would be able to help you.
find some chartered accountant (i hope you will find atleast some link to a ca) or consult your teacher. if they dont know, atleast they can give you some reference, from where you could get answer to this question.

- Abdur.Rehman - 06-06-2006

Well i know about top 3 and after that u may give any ranking
that is
KPMG
AFF
FRSH

Khalid Majeed
Anjum Asim
Yousuf Adil Salim
Hussain chaudhry
Ebrahim & Co.
Ijaz tabasum
Rafaqat babar in Peshawar

I have not given any numbers to anyone. I think no one will have objection regarding top 3. U can also consult ICAP's list of firms with satisfactory QCR ratings.

- Pracs - 06-06-2006

Schuaeb,

It seems that you did not carefully look on the forum, you would have found atleast 14 in Lahore that I have done so earlier, refer thread

http//www.accountancy.com.pk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3529&SearchTerms=bdo

Just for the record, the local Big4 accountancy firms in Lahore

Tier 1
1)A F Ferguson & Co.-PwC
2)Ford Rhodes Sidat Hyder & Co. - E&Y
3)KPMG Taseer Hadi Khalid
4)Muhammed Yusuf Adil Saleem & Co. - Deloitte

Following larger firms in Lahore (in no particular order)
Tier 2
5)Anjum Asim Shahid Rahman (Grant Thorton)
6)Ebrahim & Co.(BDO Stoy Hayward)
7)Hameed Chaudhri & Co.
8)Hussain Rehman
9)Rahman Sarfraz & Co.
10)Riaz Ahmed & Co.
11)S A Salam & Co.
12)S M Masood & Co. (Nexia International)
13)Mohmammed Idrees Masood (Backer Tilly)
14)Syed Hussain & Co. (Moore Stephens & Co.)

Expanding further on (in no particular order)
Tier 3
15) Gardezi & Co.
16) Hyder Bhimji & Co.
17) Kaleem & Co.
18) Mansha Mohsin Dossani Khan & Co.
19) Muniff Ziauddin & Co.
20) Mushtaq & Co.
21) Qadeer & Co.
22) S P Amjad & Co.

Hope this helps, for addresses please refer to the ICAP website

http//www.icap.org.pk/Downloads/dir2005-06/Geo%20List%20of%20Firms%20Pakistan%20.pdf

In our days PAC compiled a list of top 20+ audit firms that had a good / reasonable record from a student's point of view, I am not sure if they still do that, would be worth checking with them.

The last option is ofcourse as Abdur Rehman has suggested to look at the QCR listing on ICAP, but you will need to dig down since there are some 96 odd firms on there and some of them may not necessarily be all that 'trainee friendly'

http//www.icap.org.pk/QCR/QCR_LIST.htm

- Pracs - 06-07-2006

You are right these two firms are in the same league..unfortunately we have no 'financial information' on any firms in Pakistan, so the handicap. When I was looking for articles I went on to apply to atleast 20 firms (from the PAC list) in Lahore and finally got into one of the Big6 (yeah it was that long ago), although as I believe those were simpler times.

- Muhammad Adnan Arshad - 06-08-2006

I think that in LAHORE, firms ranking should be;Just for the record, the local Big4 accountancy firms in Lahore

Tier 1
1)PwC A F Ferguson & Co.(Best in TAX COSULTANCY, IT CONSULTANCY)
2)KPMG Taseer Hadi & Co. (Best in AUDIT, HR & FINACIAL ADVISORY)
3)E & Y Ford Rhodes Sidat Hyder & Co. (GENERALLY BEST)
4)M/S Muhammed Yusuf Adil Saleem & Co. - Deloitte

Following larger firms in Lahore (in no particular order)
Tier 2
5)Anjum Asim Shahid Rahman (Grant Thorton, Thompson)
6)Ebrahim & Co.(BDO Stoy Hayward)
7)Hameed Chaudhri & Co.
8)Hussain Rehman
9)Rahman Sarfraz & Co.
10)Riaz Ahmed & Co.
11)S A Salam & Co.
12)S M Masood & Co. (Nexia International)
13)Mohmammed Idrees Masood (Backer Tilly)
14)Syed Hussain & Co. (Moore Stephens & Co.)

Expanding further on (in no particular order)
Tier 3
15) Gardezi & Co.
16) Hyder Bhimji & Co.
17) Kaleem & Co.
18) Mansha Mohsin Dossani Khan & Co.
19) Muniff Ziauddin & Co.
20) Mushtaq & Co.
21) Qadeer & Co.
22) S P Amjad & Co.

Hope this helps, for addresses please refer to the ICAP website

http//www.icap.org.pk/Downloads/dir2005-06/Geo%20List%20of%20Firms%20Pakistan%20.pdf

- Pracs - 06-08-2006

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Schuaeb
 Time is even now simple as ever. But whenever u ve to search a firm after top 10 the task gets tough.
Mohammed Idrees Maqsood as u mentioned, i think there is no such firm in Lahore. Further, firms like Mansha Mohsin......... i dont think shud be there in this 22 list (just my opinion without any grounds). I dont know the basis of ur this classification, yet as mentioned earlier i ve to depend upon it.

Thanx again
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My appologies there, Baker Tilly have office in Karachi and Islamabad only

http//www.bakertillyinternational.com/Default.aspx?page=3

Well, you may have your reason for Mansha Mohsin,..

- Schuaeb - 06-08-2006

Sir, I never meant to disagree and perhaps u cant disagree with sum1 who is helping u out. This list of urs nodoubt has proven quite helpful to me (though no results yet)
My arguments just meant to clarify things for myself

- Pracs - 06-09-2006

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Schuaeb
 Sir, I never meant to disagree and perhaps u cant disagree with sum1 who is helping u out. This list of urs nodoubt has proven quite helpful to me (though no results yet)
My arguments just meant to clarify things for myself

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Schuaeb, you have every right to disagree.. I was endorsing your opinion ) so you are very much free to disagree.. although ofcourse there is no disagreement here.. Good luck with your search.