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Zaid Hamid Escaping - awaisaftab - 03-04-2010
See the folloving video Mr. Zaid Hamid is ESCAPING without giving the answer of questions raised by the ulemas of <b>Almi Majlise Tahafuze Khatme Nabuwat Pakistan</b>
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaNN_5-t6xA&feature=related
- padphoosilimdakar - 03-04-2010
Yeh Zaid Hamid Muslim hai ya Qadiyani(Ahmadi)?
- awaisaftab - 03-04-2010
Dear to get full information about Zaid Hamid See the following links.
http//www.scribd.com/doc/23672211/Zaid-Hamid-s-past-present-a-research-work
http//www.azzab.com/172/reality-of-zaid-hamid/
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUyshh4G-QU
Yousaf Kazab was a person who claimed of prophethood in 90's
- Greatkhans - 03-05-2010
Hi Everyone,
For the purpose of clarity I have to inform you that Zaid Hamid (Qadiyani Ahmadi,) is not this Zaid Hamid. Just thinking someone non-Muslim just because of resemblance of name is unjustified. We may disagree with the opinion of someone but we donât have a right to issue certificate of Kufr-o-Ilhad. For God sack stop this nonsense now.
Giving verdict about someone, without giving him an opportunity of being heard, is totally unjustified. I enjoyed this fish market. If this is the condition of our so called Ulema, then we should not complaint from people who are burning other people alive.
May Allah guide us,
Regards,
- Toronto_Boy - 03-05-2010
Kia yaar, afsos sad afsos
Awais Bhai, aap achay khasay parhay likhay banday ho aur samjh bhi rakhtay ho. Kisi musalman kay baray main bina tahqiq iss tarha ki baat ko aagay barhana kia buhtaan tarazi nahi hay?
Aap nay achay khasay links laga dyay. Main nay pahlay link par hi youtube par click kia aur Zaid Hamid ka ya interview clip aaraha hay. Ab aap issay suno aur batao kay kisi ki zaban say khulay iqrar kay baad bhi ussay non-muslim kahnay ya oskay baray main aaysi negative links laganay ki Islam main kia saza hay.
Maaf karna bhai, magar aik hadees kay alfaaz main aadmi kay jhota honay kayliay itna hi kafi hay kay wo bina tahqiq baat ko aagay barha day (I forgot exact words).
Pahlay aapnay aik hadees likhi thi, aur phir wapas lay li. Ab aik sakhs jo khul kar Khatim un Nabeen ka iqrar karraha hay oskay baray main iss tarha kay links bina tahqiq??
Pl. see following link.
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvlTCt6Kxzo&feature=related
Afsos sad afsos...
Hamari sab say bari (big) mushkil yah hay kay har sakhs ko doosray kay Islam ki buhat fikar hay.
Thik hi to har taraf say maar par rahi hay hamain. Aur khud hamaray ander jo sab say baray musalmaan hain wo baqi munafiqeen kay har roz galay kaat rahay hain.
Kia yaar. Kia log hain ham bhi.
- Toronto_Boy - 03-05-2010
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, san" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Greatkhans</i>
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Giving verdict about someone, without giving him an opportunity of being heard, is totally unjustified.
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Respected Greatkhans and others
On the same youtube link that Awais provided above, I have found following link too, in which this Zaid Hamid is openly accepting our last Prophet (SAW) as last Prophet.
So, now what is the punishment of this biggest "buhtan"??
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvlTCt6Kxzo&feature=related
Regards
- kamranACA - 03-05-2010
Zaid Hamid is emotionally disturbed man and lives in a state of over excitement. I (personally) feel him affected by some disorder. I know lots of people are inspired of his exciting but baseless or at least aimless speeches.
As far as our so-called "Ulema" are concerned, GreatKhan's words "fish market" are quite suited to their condition currently.
Regards,
- kamranACA - 03-05-2010
There was a time when muslims were striving to convert others to Islam.
Now we always keep looking how some one can be kicked out of this Islamic circle.
Result is so clear as some one explained keh hamein har jaga kyun maar par rahi hai.
The one who declares a muslim as non-muslim is sort of "munaafiq" by his-self.
Hazrat Ali Karam-Allah wajho killed a kaafir who read Kalma right when the sord was at his neck, considering and believing that Kafir read the Kalma merely to save his life and not with the faith. Prophet PBUH when came to know said, no one who says KALMA should be considered kaafir/non-muslim (and killed) since we cannot see inside some one's heart. (Mafhoom and not exact words).
People can be wrong and we may be criticisng them; but crossing such a limit is ridiculous.
Regards,
- Toronto_Boy - 03-05-2010
Dears
I don't know this person Zaid Hamid. I just saw some of his programs on TV, youtube, or websites. With all my limited knowledge, I got the impression that he is quite reckless and overly ambitious person, may not be suitable for position of responsibilities.
However, I am quite pissed off at general habit of our masses to place tags (generally qadyani tag) on opponents. We are very eager to ask and find about everyone else's religion and soon put "fatwa-e-kufar" even on people who openly accept our Prophet (PBUH) as last Prophet.
Alas!
- shani420 - 03-05-2010
Brothers,
Who was or is this "Yousuf kazzab"?(I am not talking about Zaid Hamid or his so-called asociation with Yousuf).
- Greatkhans - 03-05-2010
Hi Kamran,
These are your excellent remarks which truly represent our condition
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<br />There was a time when muslims were striving to convert others to Islam.
Now we always keep looking how some one can be kicked out of this Islamic circle.
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Regards,
GREAT KHANS
- awaisaftab - 03-05-2010
Dear All
Unfortunately we always disregard ulemas of our religion. Yeh ulema hi hain jin ki waja se hum aj musalman hain in boriya nashinon ne har jaga aur har ilaqe main deen ki shama jala k rakhi huye ha.Allama Iqbal Jab spain se ho ker wapis watan aye to unhon ne kha k ae hindostan k musalmanon in ghareeb musalmano k bacho ko deen ki taleem hasil kerne do inko in k hal pe chore do ager yeh mulla na raha to jante ho kia ho ga jo hoga wo main apni ankho se dekh ker aya hun. Jis trah Spain main sirf qurtaba aur alhamrah musalmanon ki nishanian baqi reh gaye hain hindustan main bhi sirf lal qila aur Qutub Minar hi muslamanon ki nishanian reh jain gi.
Qudurat ullah Shab ne shab name main baree achi batain likhi hain wo likhtay hain yakh basta sard raton main razayeeon main lipte ijsam ko kabhi is bat pe herat nhn huye k sakht sardi main itni pabandi se fajir ki azan aur namaz kis trah ho jati hai. Garmion ki chalchalati garmion main khas ki tatian laga ker bhetne wale yeh bhool gay k sakht garmi aur chalchalati dhoop main kon itni pabandi se azan aur namaz ka intizam kerta ha. Yeh Mullah hi ha jis ne khaeen deen ki shamma, khaeen dia aur khaeen ek chingaree jala ker rakhi huyee ha.(There may be a difference of words in above quotations of Allama Iqbal and Qudarat Ullah shab because I have no written quotation right now)
Ulemah k bare main sun lain yehi Hazrat Muhammad (SAW) k gulshan k phool hain. Inhi k dam se aj hum musalman hain. In logon ne uloome qurania aur uloome nabuwat ko apne seenon main basaya.
Let us come on real discussion. Zaid Hamid has influenced a large number of youngsters. He got popularity from his TV program which went on air from TV One or News One. When some objections were raised that he was a very active follower of Yousaf Kazzab many youngster asked from him about yousaf Kazzab. He replied that Yousaf Kazab was a sufi (this statement he give before youngsters who meet with him at his residence in Chaklala Rawalpindi). Now after very long debate and denying his linkages with Yousaf Kazab he has admitted his relation with yousaf Ali Kazzab.
See the following link
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPzYmT4cudU&feature=related
@ Toronto Boy
Dear main ne kisi k khilaf kufar o ilhad ka fatwa sadir nhn kia. Kia ap mujh ko bata saktain hain k main ne yeh kidher likha ha k Zaid Hamid Kafir ha ??? ya yeh k wo mulhid ha?? Dear main ne tamam videos dekhne k bad yeh post ki ha in main wo videos bhe shamil hain jo zaid hamid ki support main upload ki gayeen theen.
Hazrat Muhammad (SAW) ki ek hadees ha Jis ka mafhoom ha K qayamat k qareeb bare bare fitne namoodar honge in fitne main ek admi subah ko momin ho ga aur sham ko kafir ho ga (Allah Kami Beshi maaf farmay)
Is liay fitnon se hosheyar rehna chaye fatwa dena muftion aur ulema ka kam ha hum main se koyee is bat ka ahal nhn ha
Han mujh se ghalti huyee k main ne ek hadis baghair verification k post ker d imager zaid hamid k upper to Jayeed ulmae ikram ne eitrazat kiay hian .Ager ap ulema ikram ko qabile taqleed ya pervi k laiq nhn samjhte to ek kitab haâ Fitanay yousaf kazabâ jo ghalban 1999 main likhi gayee thee yeh ek advocate ne likhi ha Yousaf kazzab k hawale se . Us waqt to koyee Zaid hamid ko janta tak nhn tha. Is kitab main zaid hamid ka nam mutadid jagho pe arha ha.
Ab zaid Hamid sahib Lahore High Court k faisle ko ghalat qarar de rahe hain aur us pe bode aitrazat ker rahe hain aur is faisle ko Judicial Murder qarar de rahe.Qun na in baton ki base per un k upper toheene idalat ka muqadma chalaya jay (waise to idalty faisle k bad us pe eitraz ho sakta ha is pe toheeene idalat ka muqadma nhn ban sakta but zaid hamid superior judiciary k qabile izat judges k khilaf inthayee gandee zuban use ker rahe hein). Ab zaid hamid logon ko qanooni moshigafion main uljhana chata ha
Ager kisi shash k nazriat pe aitraz hota ha aur us k valid evidences bhee mojood hon to us ko chayee k wo apni wazay safayee pesh kare k wo apne mazi k nazriat se taib ho chukka ha aur Allah Tala se apne gunahon pe maufi mang chukka ha. mager zaid Hamid abhi bhe kehte hain k Yousaf Kazzab bohat bara sufi tha. Is ka kia matlab ha.?? Kal ko koyee qadiani uthe ga aur revolutionary thoughts ka parchar ker k kehe ga k Nauzu billah min zalik Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiyani bohat bara sufi tha. Is surat main hamare pas kia jawab ho ga.???
Point to be noted that Yousaf Kazzab ko saza high court ne sunayee thi Ulamae Ikram ya Federal Shariat Court ne nhn sunayee thee. Yeh high court thi jis ne Yousaf kazab ko jail main qaid kia tha ulemah ne us ko le ja ker Jail main qaid nhn kia tha.
<b>Mazahab ap tamam logon ka niji mamla ha due to my busy schedule I am not able to indulge in any long discussion. Zaid Hamid has admitted his link with yousaf ali Kazab. Is k ilawa har roazz you tube pe ek videio zaid hamid ki support ya mukhalfat main post ki jati ha. Jis ko haqiqat janne ka shouq ha wo you tube pe ja ker apna shouq pura ker sakta ha.
Fitnay Yousaf Kazab Kitab net pe mojood ha</b>
- awaisaftab - 03-05-2010
@Greatkhan
Dear ap to Karachi main rehte hain Almi Majlise Tahafuze Khatame Nabuwat walon ki ek bohat baree masjid karachi ki kisi main road pe ha shaid sadar k as pas whan ap jain aur apne sawalat ulema k samne rakhain.
- awaisaftab - 03-05-2010
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<br />Brothers,
Who was or is this "Yousuf kazzab"?(I am not talking about Zaid Hamid or his so-called asociation with Yousuf).
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Shani
Yousaf Kazzab ne 90's main nabuwat ka jhoota dawa kia tha. Is waja se us per muqadma chala aur Pakistan K constitution k mutabiq jurm sabit hone per Lahore High Court k ek poore bench ne us ko Sazay Maut sunayee. Zaid Hamid us waqt yousaf kazab k sath sath tha aur har Peshi pe idalat main pesh hota tha. Yousaf Kazab ki family ki hifazat ki zimedari Zaid Hamid ki security company ko sonpy gayee thi. But sazay maut pe amal se phele he ek sachay aashiqe Rasool (SAW) ne jail main yousaf kazab ko qatal ker k Ghazi Alamdin Shaheed ki yaad taza ker di.
- awaisaftab - 03-05-2010
Abhi tak kisi aalime deen ne zaid hamid k khilaf kufar ka fatwa nhn dia ha balke usse sirf explaination mangi ha