Rate the topics........

smraza · 11-02-2003, 07:51 AM

What do u think ?? which was the best topic of forum so far ????

S M R

zubair · 11-02-2003, 08:37 AM

I think the best topic was the one which didnot get a single reply. Why? because it was so difficult even for the audit community that it got them thinking for a long time.

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zubair

smraza · 11-02-2003, 09:25 PM

name the topic zubair

S M R

unknown · 11-03-2003, 08:31 PM

best topic is a 'Bush is a real Monkey' which did not get a single reply <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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smraza · 11-03-2003, 10:28 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>best topic is a 'Bush is a real Monkey' which did not get a single eply <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>
Yes your topic coudnt get replies bcaz you made your post in the same way like Mullllaaaaaasss of our country,
If his face resembles with the Monkey, then what is his Kasoor in this, God has made his face.
one thing you must have to accept He is ruler of the world, and you should be ashamed of yourself, that YOU (Ashraf-ul-Makhlookat) is being ruled by a monkey,
Your limited approach cannot reach to thinkings of that Ruler of the World.
You must accept his power to rule the world instead we start calling him monkey.
You the typical Mullaa, dont have any answer of his policies, why dont u go and do jehad against him, as he is killing you mullaaas.
(Never think that i m serious on this post, as i had nothing to do so i started replying your fazoool post, just time killing <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>, otherwise i hate to reply your posts)

S M R

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zubair · 11-03-2003, 11:00 PM

AOA

Well there is another topic which didnot get a single reply,,, dont tell me that you guys have not got the ideas for this topic... the topic i am talking about was marked as "Some Private Issues"....

Re "Bush a real ..."
We are all professionals here, please dont undermine individuals, we might have different views than Bush, but I believe everybody deserves a certain degree of respect.

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zubair

sajjad_dar2000 · 11-03-2003, 11:56 PM

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same way like Mullllaaaaaasss of our country,

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Mr. SMR why are you against the Mulaaaas, any special thing behind it<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>. Would you like to explain it briefly?

I hate mulaaas as well but you hate them tooooooooo much, which I have observed.

S Dar

sajjad_dar2000 · 11-04-2003, 12:10 AM

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AOA

Well there is another topic which didnot get a single reply,,, dont tell me that you guys have not got the ideas for this topic... the topic i am talking about was marked as "Some Private Issues"..

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Zabair sahib, people actually donât want to talk about private issues therefore they are avoiding to getting involved in 'some Private Issuesâ (kidding)

Zabair sahib thank you very much for your reply regarding icaew training contract.

S Dar

smraza · 11-04-2003, 06:31 AM

Yes, Sajjad, I hate Mulllaaasss too much, bcaz they use to give fatwas without any basis, some time they give such kind of fatwas which are totally against Islam,
By Mulllaaaa I mean those Thaikedar of Islam who spread hate among the different sects, they use to say such wording in loudspeakers which create a sort of battle among the sects.
I believe that if we select at least 10 mullaaasss from every sect, and shoot all of them then there will be no sectarian war in Pakistan,
They present Islam in a way, due to which the whole world hate Muslim Community,
as in some other forum you gave the example of Dog.

S M R

sumaaan · 11-04-2003, 09:43 AM

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Yes, Sajjad, I hate Mulllaaasss too much, bcaz they use to give fatwas without any basis, some time they give such kind of fatwas which are totally against Islam,
By Mulllaaaa I mean those Thaikedar of Islam who spread hate among the different sects, they use to say such wording in loudspeakers which create a sort of battle among the sects.
I believe that if we select at least 10 mullaaasss from every sect, and shoot all of them then there will be no sectarian war in Pakistan,
They present Islam in a way, due to which the whole world hate Muslim Community,
as in some other forum you gave the example of Dog.

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If you mean 'Thaikedaar of Islam' then use those very same words, because when you refer to 'Mullaas' you refer to a vast group of people which includes Aalims and Muftis as well... I think at this point, you're acting like those 'Thaikedaars of Islam' by issuing your own so-called 'Fatwa' in stating to 'shoot them all' and what not...

Kindly , refrain from posting such material on the forum because over here, its not one of those 'Mullaas' who might be creating 'a sort of battle', infact it might be you saying a things not to 'specific' people but rather a 'group' of people out of which some posses authentic knowledge about our religion.

zubair · 11-04-2003, 09:45 AM

HI S DAR

plz. update me if you had any success in finding suitable placement.

Thanks
zubair

jbladeus · 11-04-2003, 08:48 PM

Lol... yeah without a doubt, my favorite one is that "Private Issues" one. I literally rolled on the floor laughing when i read that.

Sumaaan
I agree that SMR is going a bit ballistic over this issue and has said something which is a bit too much.

SMR ... cool off yaar, let the shooting, maiming and hurting to the lashkars and sipahs! <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

On the other hand Sumaaan, there actually is quite a difference between the proverbial "Mulla" which SMR is talking about and our Aalim-e-deens. The word Mulla has become a term for describing a person who is quite illeterate about even the basics of islam and also about worldly subjects. But only because he has grown a beard, attended a few years of madarssa training, has read quran and adheres to the interpretation of quran and islam made by the head of his madarsaa, then uses that interpretation in issuing fatwas and setting down rules for his own adherents, loves to devour Tikkas in public restaurants and at the same time preaching piety to his adherents (i've actually seen this happen), he thinks that he deserves to be known as a Maulana or alim which is throughly against everything islam and our morals preach.

On the other hand, an alim-e-deen or mufti is in essence a person who is literate in both islamic and worldly studies, has knowledge of other religions and sects, is up to date with current local and world events and happenings, has thoroughly studied and understood different interpretations of islam, quran and hadith and secular law, is both pious in word and in practice, believes in and practices research, consultation, open discussion, qayas, ijtihad and ijmah and never ever issues any fatwas on a personal level.

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smraza · 11-04-2003, 09:12 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>If you mean 'Thaikedaar of Islam' then use those very same words, because when you refer to 'Mullaas' you refer to a vast group of people which includes Aalims and Muftis as well... I think at this point, you're acting like those 'Thaikedaars of Islam' by issuing your own so-called 'Fatwa' in stating to 'shoot them all' and what not...

Kindly , refrain from posting such material on the forum because over here, its not one of those 'Mullaas' who might be creating 'a sort of battle', infact it might be you saying a things not to 'specific' people but rather a 'group' of people out of which some posses authentic knowledge about our religion.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>
Hey sumaaan,
everyone has different opinion on different things, as already guybrush explained, there is difference b/w Aaalim e Dins and mullaaas, and I would never have been making posts regarddign mulllaaaas, but somebody asked me that why i m so against mullaaass.
nothing more than that, and i dont want to start debate on mulllaaaasss.
you may different opinion about the mulllaaaas, but please dont mix up Aalim e dins and Mulllaaaassss, both are different, <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>
Regards

S M R

sajjad_dar2000 · 11-05-2003, 12:33 AM

OK guys, let me explian the diffrence b/w Mulaas and Aalam e din.

when Alama Iqbal wrote the Shiqwa and Jawabi Shiqwa, all mullaas gave a fatwa that he (Aalama Iqbal) is Kaffar (na aozo billa).

Alama Iqbal write-

Toheedi Khoda Hum Hai Wahid Khada Humaara
Hum Kafroo kai Kafar, Kafar Khada Humaara

but our Ujud Mulaaas give fatwa that Alama Iqbal called Muslims and Allah as a ***** (na aozo billa) and therefore He (Alama Iqbal) is Kaffar (na aozo billa).

But when Aalims do speech they give the refrences of Aalama Iqbal's poetry, like

Kee Muhammed (PBUH) sai Wafa Too Nai Hum Tairay Hai
Yeh Jahaa Cheees Hai Kaya Loho Kalaam Tairay hai

Zabaa'n Sai Keh B Deya La Ilaha To Kaya Hasil
Diloo Nigaa Moomun Nahain To kuch Nahain

Khuda Uss Koom Ke Halit Nahain Budulta
Jisay Na Ho Khayal Khud Apne Halit aap Budunai Ka

I let you know one intresting thing about Mullas, Alama Iqbal Writes that
Sooboh Ke Namaaz Mai Peet (back) Mairee Kabai Ko Thee
Mai Imaam Muktadee Maira Baap (father) Tha

aor humaary mulaas g nai roola daal dia k peet (back) Kabai (Qibla Sharif)ko kar k namaaz kaisai ho gahee (heheheheheee) phir Alama Iqbaal nai un ko bataya k JAHILOO Kabaa ka Mutlub Paab (father) be howta hai (heheheheee)

Something about Mullaaas in Punjabi, Dow (two) Mowlveyoon mai Murghee haram howtee hai<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>. Mufaat ke Sharab Kazee Ko Halal.

*** Neem Hakeem Khutra e Jan
Neem Mullaa Khutra e Emaan

I let you another story which would discribe the diffrence between Mullaas and Aalme e Din

Regards

Sajjad Dar

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zubair · 11-05-2003, 02:48 AM

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my favorite one is that "Private Issues" one
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Thanks Guysbrush.... gives me comfort that atleast someone did have a good laugh reading it....
Thanks
zubair