05-30-2005, 03:54 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">You say even at present Pakistan is being DICTATED by the financial institutions. I say no thatâs a perfect lie. No more dictations like it used to be in the so-called democRATic eras of Nawaz & B.B. Now, we only borrow on our own conditionalities, with our own preferences & our own recommendations.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Democracy is no guarantee that those currently in power won't start abusing it--at which point there may not even be ballot boxes any more.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">didnt show the agreement to the words that you own. I agreed to the concept of uniting he muslim ummah and led by a single Khalifa. As practiced and tought by prohpet(s). Incase you think it was s'thing personal you are mistaken. "haha"<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
And you think that States are so alike as to ensure that totalitarianism can happen here? Dream on....
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">gone are the days when I used to sit an blame the govt. i try to make difference now. now I believe muslim ummah really need people who understand that mere blaming would not reap any result. the only solution to this vicious ruling is the Khilafa. I'm willing to talk about it at any forum. If you agree with me then try to get some knowledge about what the Islamic way of ruling (i.e. Khilafa) is and I'm positvie and even a single drop would have a great impact.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
As for Govt, sure it can't be trusted and there will always be some corruption however your own government is one of the more corrupt on the planet and I dont see your country men all up in arms, I hear a lot of talk about people who would love to change things and have this fantasy that they will do it but back in the real world it simply is not feasible to change the government that way. They have too much power now.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">You say there are social problems in our society. And I admit there are. Should that make you the most hateable article in this world? Should that make you ashamed of your own country, the land where you live, where you feed you belly on, where you earn a living, where your forefathers lie, where youâre gonna die? Tell me one single country on the face of this earth with no social problems n Iâll admit that yes, we are some kind of aliens. Man, there are problems everywhere. All we need to do is to find ways to curb them. Not that we should get obsessed with them and lose sight of our own cherished goals and targets.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
The land mass the system is on means nothing. Western politicians have the same ambitions wherever they are. It's only because it is currently unnaceptable. But we keep letting governments hack away at our rights, so its just a matter of time.
Although i am not in favour of democracy but i believe that democracy and Islam are compatible. Islam speaks of the importance of shura which is consultation, of ijma which is consensus and of ijtehad which is independent reasoning. I believe that these three Islamic principles provide a basis for democracy.
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><b>The Only True Wisdom Is In Knowing You Know Nothing </b> <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Democracy is no guarantee that those currently in power won't start abusing it--at which point there may not even be ballot boxes any more.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">didnt show the agreement to the words that you own. I agreed to the concept of uniting he muslim ummah and led by a single Khalifa. As practiced and tought by prohpet(s). Incase you think it was s'thing personal you are mistaken. "haha"<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
And you think that States are so alike as to ensure that totalitarianism can happen here? Dream on....
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">gone are the days when I used to sit an blame the govt. i try to make difference now. now I believe muslim ummah really need people who understand that mere blaming would not reap any result. the only solution to this vicious ruling is the Khilafa. I'm willing to talk about it at any forum. If you agree with me then try to get some knowledge about what the Islamic way of ruling (i.e. Khilafa) is and I'm positvie and even a single drop would have a great impact.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
As for Govt, sure it can't be trusted and there will always be some corruption however your own government is one of the more corrupt on the planet and I dont see your country men all up in arms, I hear a lot of talk about people who would love to change things and have this fantasy that they will do it but back in the real world it simply is not feasible to change the government that way. They have too much power now.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">You say there are social problems in our society. And I admit there are. Should that make you the most hateable article in this world? Should that make you ashamed of your own country, the land where you live, where you feed you belly on, where you earn a living, where your forefathers lie, where youâre gonna die? Tell me one single country on the face of this earth with no social problems n Iâll admit that yes, we are some kind of aliens. Man, there are problems everywhere. All we need to do is to find ways to curb them. Not that we should get obsessed with them and lose sight of our own cherished goals and targets.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
The land mass the system is on means nothing. Western politicians have the same ambitions wherever they are. It's only because it is currently unnaceptable. But we keep letting governments hack away at our rights, so its just a matter of time.
Although i am not in favour of democracy but i believe that democracy and Islam are compatible. Islam speaks of the importance of shura which is consultation, of ijma which is consensus and of ijtehad which is independent reasoning. I believe that these three Islamic principles provide a basis for democracy.
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><b>The Only True Wisdom Is In Knowing You Know Nothing </b> <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">