06-24-2006, 07:23 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Ali Akbar</i>
<br />Whatever, I havent seen such a professional whose statements are totally baseless!
Let me explain today in detail. You started comparing firms in Pakistan. Do you know about the current position in Pakistan? When it has been proved through clientage that you were totally wrong then you started placing firms on the basis of revenue! Comeone man why were you misguding the students? Students join the firm for articlship and not partnership! Clients matter and not the revenue!
What I understood from the discussion with you I think you had a tour of all firms but not of KPMG, dont know why!! If you are not in KPMG then it doesnt mean its not a good firm! Please stop discouraging others. Let me give you another good news, another major and one of the two listed client of AFF Islamabd is now with KPMG. The news is of today.
Those who dont even know about such basic things (IFRSs) never proved to be the pillars of the profession and then we claim that we have worked in big 4!
And dear, its not only me who is not supporting ICAP's act in 2001-02 of allowing ACCAs to become CAs. During 2001-02 the record CAs got membership of ICAP! And I have seen one of them now, thanks for making me to know that ACCAs have really no comparison with CAs of ICAP.
Anyway, keep yourself busy on this forum, but please dont misguide people by giving outdated information as I will not be there to object[)]
I am leaving this forum for good.
Best of luck
ICAPians, the unparalleled..
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Ali,.. KPMG is the best of the best in Pakistan and you are the champion of IFRS and I think ICAP should go ahead and award you an honourary ACA right now. ACCA's are scum of the earth and ACA's who have passed during 2000-2001 (is that your bench mark)are just not to the quality !
Fine, is that what you wanted to hear, is that 'your world' your reality.
Now let me run you by some facts now,..
I am still not completely convinced about KPMG being in the second position on an all Pakistan basis, because there is no facts on Revenues and number of students in Pakistan. What you may not realise is that all Big4 have similar training programmes and what the students get out of it is quite comparable. Think about what would add to a trainee's career.. 1)pass the exam 2)get the right experience 3)be accepted in the market as a professional. I believe all of the Big4 are able to claim that in Pakistan. But if you say that KPMG is the best firm, best of the best I would like to contest that. I am not the one trying to prove something,. it is you, you need to come up with facts and not just that we got two more listed clients and all.
This has nothing to do with my not working for KPMG,. would I be weary of Citicorp just because I don't work for them ! its as simple as that. Some thing you will not understand.And how my dear, have you proved Clientle, its beyond my understanding....
How do you know what my profeciency in IFRS or UKGAAP or USGAAP is ? have you worked with me do you even know me ? Just because I did not respond to your taunting questions you come to that conclusion. Infact I am the only person who responded to your query and you were to come back to me, you never did, not until you drummed up this fiasco on KPMG !! did you think I was going to come back and then try to 'prove' myself to you. I do not have to prove myself to any one, you of all people.
By saying what you are saying on 2000-2001 (did you just pick these years because you saw me qualifying in 2000 and 2001), do you know what my marks were in ACCA, or how many attempts I took to pass ACA?
I know you will never be convinced and will go further many steps to try to malign me,.so go ahead. You are the kind of person who will go at lengths to prove his point, be unflexible to any possibilities beyond their vision and all you are is a trainee ? I shudder to think what you will do when you qualify, God have mercy on your future subordinates and for that matter your Juniors in KPMG (that is if you have any yet!)
<br />Whatever, I havent seen such a professional whose statements are totally baseless!
Let me explain today in detail. You started comparing firms in Pakistan. Do you know about the current position in Pakistan? When it has been proved through clientage that you were totally wrong then you started placing firms on the basis of revenue! Comeone man why were you misguding the students? Students join the firm for articlship and not partnership! Clients matter and not the revenue!
What I understood from the discussion with you I think you had a tour of all firms but not of KPMG, dont know why!! If you are not in KPMG then it doesnt mean its not a good firm! Please stop discouraging others. Let me give you another good news, another major and one of the two listed client of AFF Islamabd is now with KPMG. The news is of today.
Those who dont even know about such basic things (IFRSs) never proved to be the pillars of the profession and then we claim that we have worked in big 4!
And dear, its not only me who is not supporting ICAP's act in 2001-02 of allowing ACCAs to become CAs. During 2001-02 the record CAs got membership of ICAP! And I have seen one of them now, thanks for making me to know that ACCAs have really no comparison with CAs of ICAP.
Anyway, keep yourself busy on this forum, but please dont misguide people by giving outdated information as I will not be there to object[)]
I am leaving this forum for good.
Best of luck
ICAPians, the unparalleled..
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Ali,.. KPMG is the best of the best in Pakistan and you are the champion of IFRS and I think ICAP should go ahead and award you an honourary ACA right now. ACCA's are scum of the earth and ACA's who have passed during 2000-2001 (is that your bench mark)are just not to the quality !
Fine, is that what you wanted to hear, is that 'your world' your reality.
Now let me run you by some facts now,..
I am still not completely convinced about KPMG being in the second position on an all Pakistan basis, because there is no facts on Revenues and number of students in Pakistan. What you may not realise is that all Big4 have similar training programmes and what the students get out of it is quite comparable. Think about what would add to a trainee's career.. 1)pass the exam 2)get the right experience 3)be accepted in the market as a professional. I believe all of the Big4 are able to claim that in Pakistan. But if you say that KPMG is the best firm, best of the best I would like to contest that. I am not the one trying to prove something,. it is you, you need to come up with facts and not just that we got two more listed clients and all.
This has nothing to do with my not working for KPMG,. would I be weary of Citicorp just because I don't work for them ! its as simple as that. Some thing you will not understand.And how my dear, have you proved Clientle, its beyond my understanding....
How do you know what my profeciency in IFRS or UKGAAP or USGAAP is ? have you worked with me do you even know me ? Just because I did not respond to your taunting questions you come to that conclusion. Infact I am the only person who responded to your query and you were to come back to me, you never did, not until you drummed up this fiasco on KPMG !! did you think I was going to come back and then try to 'prove' myself to you. I do not have to prove myself to any one, you of all people.
By saying what you are saying on 2000-2001 (did you just pick these years because you saw me qualifying in 2000 and 2001), do you know what my marks were in ACCA, or how many attempts I took to pass ACA?
I know you will never be convinced and will go further many steps to try to malign me,.so go ahead. You are the kind of person who will go at lengths to prove his point, be unflexible to any possibilities beyond their vision and all you are is a trainee ? I shudder to think what you will do when you qualify, God have mercy on your future subordinates and for that matter your Juniors in KPMG (that is if you have any yet!)
