04-14-2007, 08:37 AM
Mr Kamran ACA your professional exposure is much much greater then me their is no doubt init but you said
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Most of the times, I receive the reply, "CA is very difficult". Sometimes I get the answer, "I will do CA after doing ACCA." and sometimes, the reply is found to be very much disturbing, "I tried for CA but could not get through the first exam despite of so many attempts. Therefore, now I am doing ACCA".
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CA is not at all difficult "WHY?" because those of subjects studied by CAs are not equivallent to ACCA?????? ACCAs do 2.4 Financial Management and Control.....2.5 Financial Reporting...3.1 Audit and Assurance....3.4"Business Information Management" ....3.5 Business Analysis....3.6 Corporate Reporting....3.7 Strategic Financial Management.....but can you even quote here any subjects like these in whole CA .....CAs study F18 Management Accounting and i was ammazed by this subject when lot of course of F18 i did when attempting paper T7 Planning Control and Performance Management of CAT......be positive please i am not critique of ICAP but see it without any prejudice...there are 3 law papers in CA first in Module B "Mercantile Law" second in Module D "Company Law" and third in Module E "Corporate Law" is their any reason behind it....only ICAP is the body which offers 3 law papers.....instead ACCAs cover all in 2.2 Corporate and Business Law very comprehansively....this is what my teacher said and he is also teaching all law papers of CA...
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I have a trainee who is a qualified ACCA and who started ACCA becoz he failed doing CA after so many times attempting.
I also have a CA student who is ACCA qualified and he qualified ACCA final in first attempt in the age of 20 years. But he is struggling in CA and succeeded in getting only 2 permanent credits in module E despite of two attempts.
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ACCA student failed in CA....why??because of ICAP's policies not any other reason...otherwise this wouldn't be happen...i saw Module E and F students uses ACCA's part 3 books i saw this in ICAP's library....One thing which i closely observed that ICAP's policies are designed in such a way which always try to resist other quality institutes....even lot of ICAPins think that ICAPs papers and passing criteris are most difficult in world .....absolutly wrong its not ICAP yes Its ICAS(Institute of Chartered Accountants in Scotland)yes ICAS is having most tough criteria and papers in IFAC member bodies....why ICAP people are so offensive on ACCAs this is what i always try to asl from lot of ACAs and FCAs but no one give me an authentic reply and even some of FCAs expressly say that yes ICAP policies are more othodox and rigid which need to change....another criticism on ICAP of lot of others is that they are still providing GUPTA and SHUKLA standard accountancy.....don't you think were these books are enough to cope with the more dynamic environment of today's accountancy...they are simply obsolete books which must be banned fot study purposes at least in pakistan...I am just disclosing facts here...i am much junior then you infact i am in part 2 and just only of 20...but you as per your records are an ACA...could you give me answer of all questions
Another thing which i want to adress to here all ACCA students that
why you people always think you very small (Gira hoay) as compare to others... and lot of fools started doing ACCA as route to other qualifications...these are the people who devalue ACCA...why don't you people understand that ACCA has its own prestigious value...its a full fledge qualification no need any type of other qualifications...yes i know that this era is of mutiple qualifications .yes no doubt...but the word multi here means that always try to go for something greater then previous one as ACCAs should go for CMA(IMA),CFA,CIA,CPA an others why ACCAs think to go for CA or etc.......i request to all ACCA students that please don't devalue you and your professional body...
And it is the fact that whether it is ACCA, CA, CMA, CFA or any thing these qualificationa only make you entered in Interview Rooms and inside the interview room its you your skills your professional exposure, your personality who gives you amouts to you...not CA or ACCA i know an example that in one of the company ACCA is earning more then an ACA...why??? because ACCA had proved himself as more competent then ACA....and after all earning is upto your luck(Qismat) so don't start confrontation with your luck always be very pleased humble to whatever you have which lot of people don't have always try to see people below then your level not upper then you and always say "ALHAMDULLILAAH" and say thanks to ALLAH(S.W.T)........I ALSO SAY ALHAMDOLLILAH "THANK YOU MY ALLAH(S.W.T)"
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Most of the times, I receive the reply, "CA is very difficult". Sometimes I get the answer, "I will do CA after doing ACCA." and sometimes, the reply is found to be very much disturbing, "I tried for CA but could not get through the first exam despite of so many attempts. Therefore, now I am doing ACCA".
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CA is not at all difficult "WHY?" because those of subjects studied by CAs are not equivallent to ACCA?????? ACCAs do 2.4 Financial Management and Control.....2.5 Financial Reporting...3.1 Audit and Assurance....3.4"Business Information Management" ....3.5 Business Analysis....3.6 Corporate Reporting....3.7 Strategic Financial Management.....but can you even quote here any subjects like these in whole CA .....CAs study F18 Management Accounting and i was ammazed by this subject when lot of course of F18 i did when attempting paper T7 Planning Control and Performance Management of CAT......be positive please i am not critique of ICAP but see it without any prejudice...there are 3 law papers in CA first in Module B "Mercantile Law" second in Module D "Company Law" and third in Module E "Corporate Law" is their any reason behind it....only ICAP is the body which offers 3 law papers.....instead ACCAs cover all in 2.2 Corporate and Business Law very comprehansively....this is what my teacher said and he is also teaching all law papers of CA...
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I have a trainee who is a qualified ACCA and who started ACCA becoz he failed doing CA after so many times attempting.
I also have a CA student who is ACCA qualified and he qualified ACCA final in first attempt in the age of 20 years. But he is struggling in CA and succeeded in getting only 2 permanent credits in module E despite of two attempts.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
ACCA student failed in CA....why??because of ICAP's policies not any other reason...otherwise this wouldn't be happen...i saw Module E and F students uses ACCA's part 3 books i saw this in ICAP's library....One thing which i closely observed that ICAP's policies are designed in such a way which always try to resist other quality institutes....even lot of ICAPins think that ICAPs papers and passing criteris are most difficult in world .....absolutly wrong its not ICAP yes Its ICAS(Institute of Chartered Accountants in Scotland)yes ICAS is having most tough criteria and papers in IFAC member bodies....why ICAP people are so offensive on ACCAs this is what i always try to asl from lot of ACAs and FCAs but no one give me an authentic reply and even some of FCAs expressly say that yes ICAP policies are more othodox and rigid which need to change....another criticism on ICAP of lot of others is that they are still providing GUPTA and SHUKLA standard accountancy.....don't you think were these books are enough to cope with the more dynamic environment of today's accountancy...they are simply obsolete books which must be banned fot study purposes at least in pakistan...I am just disclosing facts here...i am much junior then you infact i am in part 2 and just only of 20...but you as per your records are an ACA...could you give me answer of all questions
Another thing which i want to adress to here all ACCA students that
why you people always think you very small (Gira hoay) as compare to others... and lot of fools started doing ACCA as route to other qualifications...these are the people who devalue ACCA...why don't you people understand that ACCA has its own prestigious value...its a full fledge qualification no need any type of other qualifications...yes i know that this era is of mutiple qualifications .yes no doubt...but the word multi here means that always try to go for something greater then previous one as ACCAs should go for CMA(IMA),CFA,CIA,CPA an others why ACCAs think to go for CA or etc.......i request to all ACCA students that please don't devalue you and your professional body...
And it is the fact that whether it is ACCA, CA, CMA, CFA or any thing these qualificationa only make you entered in Interview Rooms and inside the interview room its you your skills your professional exposure, your personality who gives you amouts to you...not CA or ACCA i know an example that in one of the company ACCA is earning more then an ACA...why??? because ACCA had proved himself as more competent then ACA....and after all earning is upto your luck(Qismat) so don't start confrontation with your luck always be very pleased humble to whatever you have which lot of people don't have always try to see people below then your level not upper then you and always say "ALHAMDULLILAAH" and say thanks to ALLAH(S.W.T)........I ALSO SAY ALHAMDOLLILAH "THANK YOU MY ALLAH(S.W.T)"
