08-03-2008, 09:18 PM
Again your rubbish post was lengthy in words but free from logic and fully biased against islam. You told us that secularism is a system to handle the society not a divine religion but what would you say about the verses of Qura'an-E-Krim and Ahadees(if you have believe in them) where Allah(S.W.T) and our Prophet(P.B.U.H) says that Islam has dealt everything in Quran and Seerat-e-Muttahirah and Allah has completed this religion for all muslims, which means that Allah has guided us everything relating to our life from our birth till death and not only life but also about the next stages of "BRZAKH" and "MEHSHAR". What would you say about the Hadees where our Prophet(P.B.U.H) says that He is leaving only two things(i.e Quran and Sunnat) among people. Islam is the only religion which devotes its 80% teachings towards general social relations and rest of the 20% towards "EBADAAT". Islam is the only religion which orders its followers to give respect and asylum to the followers of other religions as long as they do not commit any offence on you in which case Jehad will become "FARZ". Islam is the only religion which addresses every part of the life including Political, Economical and social aspects. So, my question is that, is there any need to adopt any parallel man made system even after having a lucid, divine and God gifted system in the form of Shariat-e-Islami which can only be implemented through "KHILAFAT".
On the other hand, Secularism was mainly desired to dilute the importance of religion in western societies because of too much gap between the teachings of priests (i.e. "REHBNIAT" based theology) and their social needs. Now, if you think islam has not dealt everything in Quran and Seerat-E-Aqdas then no one can refrain you from accepting the Secular teachings. As far as penetration of secularism in western countries is concerned this is again because of their theological and spiritual inconsistency which does not able to give direction to their societies and the only reason behind this is that the religion of priests is fake and false and this is why Islam is also penetrating very quickly in these societies.
You both are advocating the idea of secularism in muslim countries because you think it will serve the cause in similar way as it is doing in the western countries but why you forget that their(Western Countries) religions are incomplete, incompetent, unreliable and inadequate in addressing the issues relating to their social life and therefore they need to develop a workable system which they did in the name of secularism(A man made system) but this is not the case with islam(A divine System) because Allah has already addressed each and every issue in the holy Quran. So, there is no need to develop a parallel system.
I am once again saying that technological, educational, economical and strategic aspects are of pivotal importance and they should not be compromised but Jehad should be the base point for all these developments in an Islamic country which can only become possible through "KHILAFAT" not through so called "JAMHORIAT" or "SECULARISM" otherwise the example of turkey contains lot of lesson for us.
Not all pakistnies want to leave Pakistan for USA and other western countries but there is a small minority which includes nauseating people of your category whose only task is to earn money and world otherwise majority of the people do not even want to stay a single day in Dar-ul-Kufar(Western Countries).
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I admit that I used the word "All Jews" in that referred post. However, I should not use the word "All Jews" instead I should have used the word "All Zionists" in that post. There is a big difference between Jews and Zionists, all Zionists are Jews but all Jews are not Zionists and those non Zionist Jews are exempted from what I said regarding them in some other thread. I hope you can not understand this concept.</b>
Dear Shahbaz, this Mr KamranACA is injecting his evil, Satan and obnoxious thoughts in muslim youth, he seems to me a member of "free masons movement" or "Fifth Column of US" who has been given a task to promote deterrence(i.e. to make people afraid) from Jehad. His task is to make people astray in the name of secularism and so called Moderatism. This blind and deaf person is saying Taliban, Alqaidah and Saddam Shaheed as terrorists, he is continually abusing these warriors of Allah who are fighting against the swine American crusaders and other mercenaries of west like NATO. This shows his inner rancour against Islamic renaissance movements and Mujhedeens. He might be offering "GHAIBANA NAMAZ-E-JANZA" of "SHAHEED AMERICAN TROOPS". So, we have to beware of these people who are working in the interests of America and Israel.
May Allah protect us from the propaganda of this repulsive servile and sycophant of bush and Co.
At Mr Parcha, Parcha sahib "GORIE CHAMRIE" walon kay sath rehtay hoay banda bad demagh ho hi jata hay aakhir in "GORIE CHAMRIE" waloon ki namak halali bhi to karni hay.
On the other hand, Secularism was mainly desired to dilute the importance of religion in western societies because of too much gap between the teachings of priests (i.e. "REHBNIAT" based theology) and their social needs. Now, if you think islam has not dealt everything in Quran and Seerat-E-Aqdas then no one can refrain you from accepting the Secular teachings. As far as penetration of secularism in western countries is concerned this is again because of their theological and spiritual inconsistency which does not able to give direction to their societies and the only reason behind this is that the religion of priests is fake and false and this is why Islam is also penetrating very quickly in these societies.
You both are advocating the idea of secularism in muslim countries because you think it will serve the cause in similar way as it is doing in the western countries but why you forget that their(Western Countries) religions are incomplete, incompetent, unreliable and inadequate in addressing the issues relating to their social life and therefore they need to develop a workable system which they did in the name of secularism(A man made system) but this is not the case with islam(A divine System) because Allah has already addressed each and every issue in the holy Quran. So, there is no need to develop a parallel system.
I am once again saying that technological, educational, economical and strategic aspects are of pivotal importance and they should not be compromised but Jehad should be the base point for all these developments in an Islamic country which can only become possible through "KHILAFAT" not through so called "JAMHORIAT" or "SECULARISM" otherwise the example of turkey contains lot of lesson for us.
Not all pakistnies want to leave Pakistan for USA and other western countries but there is a small minority which includes nauseating people of your category whose only task is to earn money and world otherwise majority of the people do not even want to stay a single day in Dar-ul-Kufar(Western Countries).
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><b> You, in some earlier post, said that you want to kill each and every one of some religion followers and you did not agree that some one of them could be innocent. </b><hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
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I admit that I used the word "All Jews" in that referred post. However, I should not use the word "All Jews" instead I should have used the word "All Zionists" in that post. There is a big difference between Jews and Zionists, all Zionists are Jews but all Jews are not Zionists and those non Zionist Jews are exempted from what I said regarding them in some other thread. I hope you can not understand this concept.</b>
Dear Shahbaz, this Mr KamranACA is injecting his evil, Satan and obnoxious thoughts in muslim youth, he seems to me a member of "free masons movement" or "Fifth Column of US" who has been given a task to promote deterrence(i.e. to make people afraid) from Jehad. His task is to make people astray in the name of secularism and so called Moderatism. This blind and deaf person is saying Taliban, Alqaidah and Saddam Shaheed as terrorists, he is continually abusing these warriors of Allah who are fighting against the swine American crusaders and other mercenaries of west like NATO. This shows his inner rancour against Islamic renaissance movements and Mujhedeens. He might be offering "GHAIBANA NAMAZ-E-JANZA" of "SHAHEED AMERICAN TROOPS". So, we have to beware of these people who are working in the interests of America and Israel.
May Allah protect us from the propaganda of this repulsive servile and sycophant of bush and Co.
At Mr Parcha, Parcha sahib "GORIE CHAMRIE" walon kay sath rehtay hoay banda bad demagh ho hi jata hay aakhir in "GORIE CHAMRIE" waloon ki namak halali bhi to karni hay.
