Examiner comments-a fraud

Azeem Shah Khan · 01-06-2005, 04:55 AM

my dear friend

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> ur are senior than me,so dont mind to be harsh.one advice(although i am not capable of it) to u is "not to say or comment on any thing u dont know". i am sure the above post would make u angry and i am expecting a very harsh reply.

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thanks for considering me a senior and many thanks for the advise, you are indeed capable of giving advise. no i m not going for a harsh route this time as i do it for people who try to be over smart. i dont like to comment on something i dont know and infact i thanked you in my earlier post for correcting me.

i was commenting on the exam result systems of diff accounting bodies and my emphasis was on ICAP, ICMAP and ACCA. you corrected me on ICAP and i know ICMAP and ACCA's exam results policy, i dont see anything wrong commenting on it.

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>LAstly,ur statements are contradicting.own one hand u say that employer dont see marks percentage once u have acca degree,they only see aptitude,knowledge etc and on the other hand u say that marks can be used to speclize in particular subject.speclization can be done in ACCA PASSED papers but once u have passed ca no speclization is required.e.g if u have passed corporate law paper of module E,it means u have studied the whole ordinance,its rules,and there are round about 10 or more laws in this paper.after going through all this what further u can study ,i just dont know.

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so you are trying to say that CA is the ULTIMATE qualification, once you do CA you become a MASTER of ALL since you can't see any area left behind. bilal i would strongly recommend you not to say this thing to anyone. i always thought all those qualifications like CTA (Chartered Tax Adviser), CFA (Chartered Financial Analyst), PhDs in individual subjects are there for a purpose but NOW after knowing the fact that all i want is to become a CA and i will master everything has completely changed my mind........thanks for your insight.........you definitely deserve to comment on things you know.......(i hope you were just kidding when you said after ACCA PASSED papers you need specialisation and after CA you dont.....you are trying to be over smart.........so be careful!!!)

i am still trying to find where i CONTRADICTED my own statements. Yes i did say employers are more interested in what a CANDIDATE knows than his/her exam marks, and Yes i also said that marks can motivate candidates to specialise in those subjects (assuming they get higher marks because of their interest in those subjects and their natural inclination)...........WHERE IS THE CONTRADICTION???
in first statement i am talking about the employers perception about the candidate in the later statement i am discussing the psychological effect the exam marks can have on students' careers......once again WHERE IS THE CONTRADICTION???

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Icap never ever fails a student having 60-65 marks.if thats the case then i am fail in all other twelve papers as well.The passing percentage according to those who have qualified(some of my teacher)is even less than 50.i knew that in some of my papers like economics,cost accounting,IT1, my marks would be, at the most, around
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now i won't say you are contradicting your statements here, rather i would say you are supporting my point of view. by reading the above statement we can surely say that ICAP's exam system is not JUST. although they say that they have a 50% pass criteria but in reality it is much below that (something NOT to be proud of). Now how you are supporting my point, you said you were expecting your marks between 45-55 and yet you passed that paper leaving you in doubt whether you got over 50 or under 50, presumably you got over 50 thats why you passed but even then it left a doubt thats why you mentioned it here and thats the point i was trying to make earlier that publishing marks DONOT leave any doubt and give students the much needed confidence in the fairness of the system.

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>THE main reason of issuing this 50 percent ratio was that poeple like u cry after failing and instead of blaming themselves,blame the icap.THE PAPers in which i got refer,my marks were definitely below 45.your estimate of 60-65 marks is based on ur own judgement. The solution of icap questions is usually not the one we think it is. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

i was never a student of ICAP!!! so there is no question of crying about it. the only paper i REFERRED (not failed) was of ICMAP's where SURPRISINGLY my answers were not TOO different from my brother's and my LECTURER's explanations to that paper and there was no question about 60-65 marks - i was expecting over 80. this is a mystery for me how on earth i could be referred in that paper.........i may be wrong in my assessment but this could only be verified had i be given my marks. secondly my assessments never went wrong in ACCA!!!

hope this will clear some of my points, i am glad to know you have almost completed your CA Inter and i wish you all the best for your future exams.

Best Regards

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