11-11-2003, 08:48 PM
Aslaam O Alikaam, Samyah
To believe on god is very easy, observe the universe and see how the system of whole universe is working. Think about the earth and other planets, how they are supported indivisuly by unseen forces (gravity etc), how days come and nights fall. Tell me who created all unseen forces? Off course God created them. Earth and other planet are moving in a orbit, could you please tell me who is forcing them to move around their orbit???????. This whole universe working under a best management system, but question is who manage/operate the universe? And answer is God.
Holy Quran is only the book at the moment that has not changed since it came in to world 14000 years ago. And researches and professor at Oxford Universty and other researches prove this from other organization, but other holy books have been changed. So that they can fit in their modern way of thinking and living i.e. Anglican church has interpreted the holy Bible and new testament to say that it is our right to have gay marriage, gay presets etc. Here my question is why Quran has not been changed since 14000 years ago. Because Allah says in Quran "verily, we, it is we who have sent down the Quran and surely we will guard it (from corruption)."
Science says you have five senses you use to identify and observe the world around you 1)see 2)hear 3)feel 4)touch 5)smell. But I say science is flawed. Is there anyone here who has ever seen the butter in the milk, has ever heard the butter... felt the butter, touched or smelt the butter in the milk?. Off course not, then i have to say 'there is no butter in the milk'.
SCIENCE AND THE NOBLE QURAN
Muhammad (PBUH) was unlettered. He (PBUH) could neither read nor write, and he grew up in Makkah where there were no schools. He (PBUH) was far away from the scientific circles that existed in Syria, Alexandria, Athens or Rome. Moreover, the scientific facts mentioned in the Quran were not known in that stage, i.e, the seventh century CE. Having studied and examined the Arabic text of the Quran, Dr. Bucaille says
"i could not find a single error in the Quran. i had to stop ans ask myself if a man was the auther of the Quran, how could he have written facts in the seventh century CE that today are shown to be in keeping with modern scientific knowledge? i had to acknowledge the evidence in front of methe Quran did not contain a single statment that was assailable from a modern scientific point of view. i repeated the same test for the old testament and Gospel, always preserving the same onjective outlook. in the former, i did not even have to go beyound the first book, Genesis, to find statements totally out of keeping with the cast-iron facts of modern science." (<i>The bible, the Qur'an and science, p.120</i>)
Dr. Bucaille stuided many scientific facts mentioned in the Quran such as the creation of the universe, astronomy, the animal and botanical life, human reproduction and other related issues. i shall select, for the sake of brevity two of the above issues to draw the attention of the reader to one of this message.
"And the Messenger (Muhammad PBUH) will say O my Lord! verily, my people deserted this Quran (neither listened to it nor acted on its laws and teachings)." (V. 2530)
CREATION OF THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH
mans's knowladge of the origin of the universe is very limited. Scientists have proposed hypotheses and theories of evolution that are centered around one them the primodial fireball and the primordial era of matter and antimatter. according to the theories, the universe consisted mainly of strong interacting particles. the primordial matter and antimatter, according to Encyclopaedia Britannica, eventually annihilated each other. thoese particles that survived formed the present universe. the basic process of the develpmont of the universe is presented in the Holy Quran in simple words. Allah commands His Messenger Muhammad to ask the disbeliever
"say (O Muhammed PBUH) 'Do you verily disbeliever in Him who created the earth in twoDays? and you set up rivals (in worship) with Him? that is the Lord of the <i>Alamin</i> (mankind, jinn and all the exists). he placed therein (i.e. the earth) firm mountains from above it, and He blessed it,and measured therein its sustenance (for its dwellers) in fours days equal (i.e., all these four 'days' were equal in the length of time) for all those who ask (about the creation). then He rose over(<i>Istawa</i>) toward the heaven when it was smoke, and said to it and to the earth 'come both of you willingly or unwillingly.' they both said 'we come (as) seven heavens in two Days and He made in each heaven its affair. and we adorned the nearest (lowest) heaven with lamps (stars) to be an adornment as well as to guard (from the devils by using them a missile against the devils). such is the Decree of the All-Mighty, the All-Knower." (V.419-12)
And Allah says
"have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were joined togather as one united piece, then we parted them? and we have made from water every living thing. will they not then believer?" (V.2130)
(about the) stars (1. <i> Encyclopaedia Britannica 15th ed., Macropaedia, v.18, p.1009.</i>). Abu Qatadah mentioned Allah's statement "And We have adorned the nearest heaven with lamps," and said,"the creation of these stars is for three purposes, i.e., as decoration of the (nearest) heaven, as missiles to hit the devils, and a sign to guide travelers. so, if anybody tries to find a diffrent interpretation, he is mistaken and just wastes his efforts, and troubles himself with what is beyound his limited knowledge." (<i>Sahih Al-Bukhari,</i> the book of the Beginning of Creation, Chap.3) this concept of the division of on unit into two or more parts, and the celestial "smoke" referred to above, correspond to factual, scientific data. the Encyclopaedia britannica wrote of the English physicist and astronomer, Sir James Jeans
"we have found that, as Newton first conjectured a chaotic mass of gas of approximately uniform density and of verygreat extend, would be dynamically unstablenuclei would tend to form in it, around which the whole of matter would ultimately condense ." on the basis of this theory he proposed that all celestial objects originated by a process of fragmentation. (<i> Encyclopaedia Britannaica, Macropaedia, v. 18, p. 10099</i>)
Needless to say, the space program helped disciver the homogeneity of the substance of which the moon, the earth, and other planets are formed. 2such statements in QURAN concerning the creation, which appear nearly fourteen centuries ago," Dr. Bucaille concluded, " obviously do not lend themselves to a human explanation". (<i>Macropaedia, v.18, p.1008</i>)
HUMAN REPRODUCTION
complexities of human reproduction were decoded and understood only understood only after the invention of the most sophisticated scientific and medical instruments, hundreds of years after the death of prophet Muhammad (PBUH) yet the Quran refers to the stages through which the human embryo passes. As Allah says
"And indeed We created man (Adam) out of an extract of clay (water and earth). Thereafter We made him (the offspring of Adam) as a <i>Nutfah</i> (mixed drops of male and female sexual discharge and loged it) in a safe lodging (womb of the woman). then WE made the <i>Nutfah</i> into a clot (a piece of thick coagulated blood), then we made the clot into a little lump of flesh, then WE made out of that little lump of flesh bones, then We clothed the bones with flesh, and then We brought it forth as anothet creation. So, Blessed is Allah, the best of creators." (V.23 12-14)
Narrated 'Abdullah Rz Allah's Messenger (PBUH), the true and truly inspired, said
"(as regard your creation) every one of you is collectedin the womb of his mother for the first fourty days, and then he become a clot of another fourty days, and then a piece of flesh for another fourty days. Then Allah sends an angle to write four words He writes his deed, time of his death, mean of his livelihood, and whether he will be wretched or blessed (in the Hereafter). Then the soul is breathed inti his body. so, a man may do deed characteristic of the people of the (Hell) Fire, so much so that there is only the distance of a cubit between him and it, and then what has been written (by the angel) surpasses; so he starts doing deeds characteristic of the people of Paradise and enter Paradise. similarly, a person may do deed characteristic of the people of Paradise, so much so that there is onlythe distance of a cubit between him and it, and the what has been written 9by the angel) surpasses, and he starts doing deeds of the people of the (hell) Fire and enter the (Hell)Fire." (<i> sahih Al-Bukhari, Hadith No.3332</i>).
(here i want to clear a point that God dont bound sombody by writing, actually God is <i>Aalim ul ghaib</i> and He knows what the person gonna do in his life in the <i>Dunyaa</i>)
As scientifically proven, the stages of human reproduction are
1. The fertilization of an ovum takes place in the fallopian tubes. the fertilizing agent is the male sperm.
2. the implantation of the fertilized egg takes place at a precise spot in the female resproductive system. it descends into the uterus and lodges in th body of uterus. as soon as the embryo is visible to the naked eye, it looks like a small mass of flesh. it groes there in progressive stages that are very well known today. they are the formations of the bones structure, the muscles, the nervous system, the circulation, and the viscera, etc. (<i>Macropaedia, v.18, p.1008</i>)
in conclusion, Dr Bucaille ascertain
"more then a thousand years before our time, at a period when attractive doctrines still prevailed, men had a knowladge of the QURAN. the statements it contains, express in simple terms, truth of earliest natural history which man has taken centuries to discover". (<i>Bucaille, op cit</i>)
Proof of God- having observed the above Quran's verses, now its clear that God exist. caz a man could not be a auther of Quran. as above i have mentioned that Muhammad (PBUH) was unlettered. He (PBUH) could neither read nor write, and he grew up in Makkah where there were no schools. He (PBUH) was far away from the scientific circles that existed in Syria, Alexandria, Athens or Rome.
Now my question would be, Who is the auther of Quran. If somebody says Muhammad(PBUH) then i'll say He (PBUH) was unlettered, he could neither read nor write, was it possible to write a Quran for Him
(PBUH)???. Answer is Yes God exist and He is the Auther of Quran
indeed Muhammad (PBUH) could neither read nor write BUT God gave Him (PBUH) greate knowledge of islam, universe etc etc.
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Edited by - sajjad_dar2000 on Nov 11 2003 63655 PM
To believe on god is very easy, observe the universe and see how the system of whole universe is working. Think about the earth and other planets, how they are supported indivisuly by unseen forces (gravity etc), how days come and nights fall. Tell me who created all unseen forces? Off course God created them. Earth and other planet are moving in a orbit, could you please tell me who is forcing them to move around their orbit???????. This whole universe working under a best management system, but question is who manage/operate the universe? And answer is God.
Holy Quran is only the book at the moment that has not changed since it came in to world 14000 years ago. And researches and professor at Oxford Universty and other researches prove this from other organization, but other holy books have been changed. So that they can fit in their modern way of thinking and living i.e. Anglican church has interpreted the holy Bible and new testament to say that it is our right to have gay marriage, gay presets etc. Here my question is why Quran has not been changed since 14000 years ago. Because Allah says in Quran "verily, we, it is we who have sent down the Quran and surely we will guard it (from corruption)."
Science says you have five senses you use to identify and observe the world around you 1)see 2)hear 3)feel 4)touch 5)smell. But I say science is flawed. Is there anyone here who has ever seen the butter in the milk, has ever heard the butter... felt the butter, touched or smelt the butter in the milk?. Off course not, then i have to say 'there is no butter in the milk'.
SCIENCE AND THE NOBLE QURAN
Muhammad (PBUH) was unlettered. He (PBUH) could neither read nor write, and he grew up in Makkah where there were no schools. He (PBUH) was far away from the scientific circles that existed in Syria, Alexandria, Athens or Rome. Moreover, the scientific facts mentioned in the Quran were not known in that stage, i.e, the seventh century CE. Having studied and examined the Arabic text of the Quran, Dr. Bucaille says
"i could not find a single error in the Quran. i had to stop ans ask myself if a man was the auther of the Quran, how could he have written facts in the seventh century CE that today are shown to be in keeping with modern scientific knowledge? i had to acknowledge the evidence in front of methe Quran did not contain a single statment that was assailable from a modern scientific point of view. i repeated the same test for the old testament and Gospel, always preserving the same onjective outlook. in the former, i did not even have to go beyound the first book, Genesis, to find statements totally out of keeping with the cast-iron facts of modern science." (<i>The bible, the Qur'an and science, p.120</i>)
Dr. Bucaille stuided many scientific facts mentioned in the Quran such as the creation of the universe, astronomy, the animal and botanical life, human reproduction and other related issues. i shall select, for the sake of brevity two of the above issues to draw the attention of the reader to one of this message.
"And the Messenger (Muhammad PBUH) will say O my Lord! verily, my people deserted this Quran (neither listened to it nor acted on its laws and teachings)." (V. 2530)
CREATION OF THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH
mans's knowladge of the origin of the universe is very limited. Scientists have proposed hypotheses and theories of evolution that are centered around one them the primodial fireball and the primordial era of matter and antimatter. according to the theories, the universe consisted mainly of strong interacting particles. the primordial matter and antimatter, according to Encyclopaedia Britannica, eventually annihilated each other. thoese particles that survived formed the present universe. the basic process of the develpmont of the universe is presented in the Holy Quran in simple words. Allah commands His Messenger Muhammad to ask the disbeliever
"say (O Muhammed PBUH) 'Do you verily disbeliever in Him who created the earth in twoDays? and you set up rivals (in worship) with Him? that is the Lord of the <i>Alamin</i> (mankind, jinn and all the exists). he placed therein (i.e. the earth) firm mountains from above it, and He blessed it,and measured therein its sustenance (for its dwellers) in fours days equal (i.e., all these four 'days' were equal in the length of time) for all those who ask (about the creation). then He rose over(<i>Istawa</i>) toward the heaven when it was smoke, and said to it and to the earth 'come both of you willingly or unwillingly.' they both said 'we come (as) seven heavens in two Days and He made in each heaven its affair. and we adorned the nearest (lowest) heaven with lamps (stars) to be an adornment as well as to guard (from the devils by using them a missile against the devils). such is the Decree of the All-Mighty, the All-Knower." (V.419-12)
And Allah says
"have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were joined togather as one united piece, then we parted them? and we have made from water every living thing. will they not then believer?" (V.2130)
(about the) stars (1. <i> Encyclopaedia Britannica 15th ed., Macropaedia, v.18, p.1009.</i>). Abu Qatadah mentioned Allah's statement "And We have adorned the nearest heaven with lamps," and said,"the creation of these stars is for three purposes, i.e., as decoration of the (nearest) heaven, as missiles to hit the devils, and a sign to guide travelers. so, if anybody tries to find a diffrent interpretation, he is mistaken and just wastes his efforts, and troubles himself with what is beyound his limited knowledge." (<i>Sahih Al-Bukhari,</i> the book of the Beginning of Creation, Chap.3) this concept of the division of on unit into two or more parts, and the celestial "smoke" referred to above, correspond to factual, scientific data. the Encyclopaedia britannica wrote of the English physicist and astronomer, Sir James Jeans
"we have found that, as Newton first conjectured a chaotic mass of gas of approximately uniform density and of verygreat extend, would be dynamically unstablenuclei would tend to form in it, around which the whole of matter would ultimately condense ." on the basis of this theory he proposed that all celestial objects originated by a process of fragmentation. (<i> Encyclopaedia Britannaica, Macropaedia, v. 18, p. 10099</i>)
Needless to say, the space program helped disciver the homogeneity of the substance of which the moon, the earth, and other planets are formed. 2such statements in QURAN concerning the creation, which appear nearly fourteen centuries ago," Dr. Bucaille concluded, " obviously do not lend themselves to a human explanation". (<i>Macropaedia, v.18, p.1008</i>)
HUMAN REPRODUCTION
complexities of human reproduction were decoded and understood only understood only after the invention of the most sophisticated scientific and medical instruments, hundreds of years after the death of prophet Muhammad (PBUH) yet the Quran refers to the stages through which the human embryo passes. As Allah says
"And indeed We created man (Adam) out of an extract of clay (water and earth). Thereafter We made him (the offspring of Adam) as a <i>Nutfah</i> (mixed drops of male and female sexual discharge and loged it) in a safe lodging (womb of the woman). then WE made the <i>Nutfah</i> into a clot (a piece of thick coagulated blood), then we made the clot into a little lump of flesh, then WE made out of that little lump of flesh bones, then We clothed the bones with flesh, and then We brought it forth as anothet creation. So, Blessed is Allah, the best of creators." (V.23 12-14)
Narrated 'Abdullah Rz Allah's Messenger (PBUH), the true and truly inspired, said
"(as regard your creation) every one of you is collectedin the womb of his mother for the first fourty days, and then he become a clot of another fourty days, and then a piece of flesh for another fourty days. Then Allah sends an angle to write four words He writes his deed, time of his death, mean of his livelihood, and whether he will be wretched or blessed (in the Hereafter). Then the soul is breathed inti his body. so, a man may do deed characteristic of the people of the (Hell) Fire, so much so that there is only the distance of a cubit between him and it, and then what has been written (by the angel) surpasses; so he starts doing deeds characteristic of the people of Paradise and enter Paradise. similarly, a person may do deed characteristic of the people of Paradise, so much so that there is onlythe distance of a cubit between him and it, and the what has been written 9by the angel) surpasses, and he starts doing deeds of the people of the (hell) Fire and enter the (Hell)Fire." (<i> sahih Al-Bukhari, Hadith No.3332</i>).
(here i want to clear a point that God dont bound sombody by writing, actually God is <i>Aalim ul ghaib</i> and He knows what the person gonna do in his life in the <i>Dunyaa</i>)
As scientifically proven, the stages of human reproduction are
1. The fertilization of an ovum takes place in the fallopian tubes. the fertilizing agent is the male sperm.
2. the implantation of the fertilized egg takes place at a precise spot in the female resproductive system. it descends into the uterus and lodges in th body of uterus. as soon as the embryo is visible to the naked eye, it looks like a small mass of flesh. it groes there in progressive stages that are very well known today. they are the formations of the bones structure, the muscles, the nervous system, the circulation, and the viscera, etc. (<i>Macropaedia, v.18, p.1008</i>)
in conclusion, Dr Bucaille ascertain
"more then a thousand years before our time, at a period when attractive doctrines still prevailed, men had a knowladge of the QURAN. the statements it contains, express in simple terms, truth of earliest natural history which man has taken centuries to discover". (<i>Bucaille, op cit</i>)
Proof of God- having observed the above Quran's verses, now its clear that God exist. caz a man could not be a auther of Quran. as above i have mentioned that Muhammad (PBUH) was unlettered. He (PBUH) could neither read nor write, and he grew up in Makkah where there were no schools. He (PBUH) was far away from the scientific circles that existed in Syria, Alexandria, Athens or Rome.
Now my question would be, Who is the auther of Quran. If somebody says Muhammad(PBUH) then i'll say He (PBUH) was unlettered, he could neither read nor write, was it possible to write a Quran for Him
(PBUH)???. Answer is Yes God exist and He is the Auther of Quran
indeed Muhammad (PBUH) could neither read nor write BUT God gave Him (PBUH) greate knowledge of islam, universe etc etc.
Edited by - sajjad_dar2000 on Nov 11 2003 44659 PM
Edited by - sajjad_dar2000 on Nov 11 2003 50941 PM
Edited by - sajjad_dar2000 on Nov 11 2003 60823 PM
Edited by - sajjad_dar2000 on Nov 11 2003 63655 PM
