06-06-2007, 04:32 PM
Dear Shoaib,
So much you have written down is a very simple over-view of the scene. You (i mean any one from your family) have not experienced the migration from India to Pakistan. Have this been a case, you would have not been unaware of those millions who sacrificed their lives, their properties, their siblings and much more for Pakistan during the whole process of freedom and specially during the phase of migration. Of course so many of those who opted India as their place have also gone thorugh this process. But at the moment we are discussing Pakistan.
I have personally met so many old men and women who were the part of this migration. I have heard directly from them and my knowledge is not simply based on the text book of PAKISTAN STUDIES. I am not discussing the intents behind such migration or the reasons for such migration. Infact the thing under discussion is what exactly has happened.
Secondly, whether BAIGMAAT of elite class were given a credit or not, this is not a matter to be emphasized. In that struggle even the college and school girls had participated. I dont know to which class they relate but they had contributed their share. Needful is to check the history in detail. Yes, of course, indirectly females always have an influence thats why we cannot simply ignore them and disregard them. I only wanted to invite attention towards the role of females in the economic development and other important facets of life. I understand so many of us feel them to be a home bird who should not come out of the cage specified for them (so-called CHAADAR AND CHAAR DEEWARI). In my view this Chadar and Char deewari could be taken every where by a female who is mature, responsible, respectable and vigilant. Just the chaar deewari of bricks and cement cannot protect the females and society from lewdness and other evils. I cannot find from the Holy Quran any order for the females to always remain at home and dont put their feet outside and dont work and study for any improvement of life, mankind and economy. If at any place any thing has been mentioned about NAAN or NUFQA for a married female being the responsibility of her hubby(as pointed out by another friend) this has its own logic. There appear to me some serious logics behind HAQ MEHAR, NAN/NUFQA and other such things to regularize the social setup and to save the females from being deprived of their basic rights. In my view at so many places Islam has given more rights to females just to emphasize their respect in the society. This is not the main topic so I dont get into its detail. However, I could not so far conclude form the holy verses of Holy Quran that females should not have advanced education and should not work in an islamic society. In my view such conclusion is a rigid thought, unethical and narrow minded. I wonder if females would not become doctors, how the persons who dont want their wives' and females to be checked up by male doctors (specially in gynae matters) would succeed in restoring the health of their wives and females. Such adverse thinking for females' education and working is just an uneducated narrow minded thinking. This is my sole view.
As far as the migration of Ulemaas and Maulvies is concerned, the Jamiat Ulmaa-e-Hind is still at India with all of the Ulemaas and Maulvies. This Jamiat is much wider than the Jamiat Ulmaa-e-Pakistan and most of them are still of the opinion that the foundation of Pakistan was a wrong step. I dont comment on the validity of their opinion.
If the desired results have not been so far obtained from the foundation of Pakistan, the major role for such failure was of army and wadiaras who are mainly our politicians. They killed Liaqat Ali khan. I personally feel Mr. Jinnah was also killed or proper care was not taken for him and he was left to face his disease without any proper cure. Fatima Jinnah was defeated by Ayub Khan and all his allies who are still in government. So much was gradually changed by Gen.Azam, Sikander Mirza, Ayub, and Yahya. I also mention that failure was also caused by Ulemaas who did not properly guide the nation and who kept on fighting with each other on the issues of power and government. Now we have reached a stage where we dont exactly find the reasons of making Pakistan and we have variant and diversified opinions on this issue.
As far as Mr. Abu-al-Aala Maudoodi is concerned, he was a learned AALIM. I am not his follower but I have no doubt on his knowledge. I wonder, if he was against Pakistan (as we all know) then why he opted Pakistan as his residential country while the option of setlling down in India was available. Does this not somewhat seem to be a collasion between sayings and doings? However, I dont know the detailed reasons and background of his decision to opt Pakistan.
Now I think much discussion has been made on this issue and we should give time to other matters.
Best regards,
So much you have written down is a very simple over-view of the scene. You (i mean any one from your family) have not experienced the migration from India to Pakistan. Have this been a case, you would have not been unaware of those millions who sacrificed their lives, their properties, their siblings and much more for Pakistan during the whole process of freedom and specially during the phase of migration. Of course so many of those who opted India as their place have also gone thorugh this process. But at the moment we are discussing Pakistan.
I have personally met so many old men and women who were the part of this migration. I have heard directly from them and my knowledge is not simply based on the text book of PAKISTAN STUDIES. I am not discussing the intents behind such migration or the reasons for such migration. Infact the thing under discussion is what exactly has happened.
Secondly, whether BAIGMAAT of elite class were given a credit or not, this is not a matter to be emphasized. In that struggle even the college and school girls had participated. I dont know to which class they relate but they had contributed their share. Needful is to check the history in detail. Yes, of course, indirectly females always have an influence thats why we cannot simply ignore them and disregard them. I only wanted to invite attention towards the role of females in the economic development and other important facets of life. I understand so many of us feel them to be a home bird who should not come out of the cage specified for them (so-called CHAADAR AND CHAAR DEEWARI). In my view this Chadar and Char deewari could be taken every where by a female who is mature, responsible, respectable and vigilant. Just the chaar deewari of bricks and cement cannot protect the females and society from lewdness and other evils. I cannot find from the Holy Quran any order for the females to always remain at home and dont put their feet outside and dont work and study for any improvement of life, mankind and economy. If at any place any thing has been mentioned about NAAN or NUFQA for a married female being the responsibility of her hubby(as pointed out by another friend) this has its own logic. There appear to me some serious logics behind HAQ MEHAR, NAN/NUFQA and other such things to regularize the social setup and to save the females from being deprived of their basic rights. In my view at so many places Islam has given more rights to females just to emphasize their respect in the society. This is not the main topic so I dont get into its detail. However, I could not so far conclude form the holy verses of Holy Quran that females should not have advanced education and should not work in an islamic society. In my view such conclusion is a rigid thought, unethical and narrow minded. I wonder if females would not become doctors, how the persons who dont want their wives' and females to be checked up by male doctors (specially in gynae matters) would succeed in restoring the health of their wives and females. Such adverse thinking for females' education and working is just an uneducated narrow minded thinking. This is my sole view.
As far as the migration of Ulemaas and Maulvies is concerned, the Jamiat Ulmaa-e-Hind is still at India with all of the Ulemaas and Maulvies. This Jamiat is much wider than the Jamiat Ulmaa-e-Pakistan and most of them are still of the opinion that the foundation of Pakistan was a wrong step. I dont comment on the validity of their opinion.
If the desired results have not been so far obtained from the foundation of Pakistan, the major role for such failure was of army and wadiaras who are mainly our politicians. They killed Liaqat Ali khan. I personally feel Mr. Jinnah was also killed or proper care was not taken for him and he was left to face his disease without any proper cure. Fatima Jinnah was defeated by Ayub Khan and all his allies who are still in government. So much was gradually changed by Gen.Azam, Sikander Mirza, Ayub, and Yahya. I also mention that failure was also caused by Ulemaas who did not properly guide the nation and who kept on fighting with each other on the issues of power and government. Now we have reached a stage where we dont exactly find the reasons of making Pakistan and we have variant and diversified opinions on this issue.
As far as Mr. Abu-al-Aala Maudoodi is concerned, he was a learned AALIM. I am not his follower but I have no doubt on his knowledge. I wonder, if he was against Pakistan (as we all know) then why he opted Pakistan as his residential country while the option of setlling down in India was available. Does this not somewhat seem to be a collasion between sayings and doings? However, I dont know the detailed reasons and background of his decision to opt Pakistan.
Now I think much discussion has been made on this issue and we should give time to other matters.
Best regards,
