05-25-2008, 06:37 PM
Whenever i see posts like this i always feel that we ourselves say that we need to unite Ummat-e-Muslima and then at the same time we deliver our actions 180 degree against what we say.
Essal-e-Sawab as per Hanafi Code through Recitation of Quran-e-Karim is not only allowed but it is also much appreciable activity but the "MURAWWIJ" system of so called "QURAN-KHUWANI" is having so many wrong things in it,
1)People who are invited for it(Quran-Khuwani) take it as their social duty and a burden of society on them rather than their religious responsibility.
2)I mayself saw so many people who recite quran by escaping 2/3 pages and some of the people complete it in 10 to 15 minutes.
3)Some of them even do not stop reading quran at the time of AZAN and at the time of quran Khuwani lot of people left their namaz.
In one of the Ahadith our prophet(Sallalahu-Allih-e-wassallam) has said that "NEEK-OWLAD" is Sawab-e-Jaria for parents.
"NEEK OWLAD" is sawab-e-jaria in a way that they remember their parents in their Prayers, always pray for them and always make "Essal-e-Sawab" of their good deeds for them.
So, as per Imam Abu Hanifa(Rehmatullah-e-Allih) Essal-e-Sawab is allowed and it is Jaiz as long as it has been done by closely related people of the deceased person and it has been done by those who do it by their will(i.e. as their religious responsibility not their social responsibility or societal burden).
Mr Zakir Naik and Co.(Including Dr.Israr Ahmed and Dr. Farahat Hashmi[Fitna Gar Aurat]) in my opinion can be having a good knowledge of different religions and faiths like Jewism, Christianity, Hinduism and other religions and faiths but their knowledge of different religions do not make them AALIM-E-DEEN of FIQAH. FIQAH is very different field and in the history of Ummat there were so many big Faqih like Imam Ibn-e-Taimia, Mullah Ali Qari, Hazrat Shah Wali Ullah Dehalvi and other big names(Rehmatullah-e-Alihim) so please go and read the literature of these people of knowledge rather then wasting your time in reading the material of IRF(we know who are on back of these people).
If your faith disallows you from Essal-e-Sawab don't do it but if other faiths allow it then you do not have a right to refrain them by saying it as 'bidah'.
In the above post the answering person has told us the definition of 'Bidah' and Ahadiths relating to 'Bidah' not relating to Essal-e-sawab and he has said that Essal-e-Sawab is Innovation(Bibah) but he didn't prove that how it is an innovation but i proved it as allowable activity through Hadith that "Neek Owlad is Sawab-e-Jaria for parents".
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Sarfaraz</i>
<b>However it is allowed to pray for the deceased and give charity for him, as there is no difference of opinion in this regard.</b><hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
If it is allowed to pray(i.e. Dua-e-Maghfirat) for deceased and to give Charity(i.e. Sadaqa-O-Kherat) for deceased then I have following questions.
1)In case of "Qaboliat" of "Dua-e-Maghfirat" will Allah forgive a deceased person on his/her previous wrong deeds?
2)Will those Sadaqa-O-Kherat reach to a deceased person(i.e. will Allah reward him for sadqa given by others on his behalf)?
If the answers of both questions are in "YES" then why can't Allah give a sawab to deceased person on recitation of quran by others on his behalf, and if you and your IRF still disagree then i very respectfully ask that Is the definition of "SADAQA" according to you and IRF evolves around the outflow of "CURRENCY" only.
Isn't it a Sadaqa to recite quran on behalf of your deceased ones, If you and your IRF has restricted the definition of Sadaqa to the outflow to currency then i can't do anything further for you(KUCH KHOPRI KA ISTIMAL BHI KARLIA KARO BHAI!).
I know there are some differences among Ummat-e-Muslima in different faiths and practices but for the greater interest of Ummah we should refrain us from pin pointing these issues, we should unite ourselves on a one point agenda(i.e. Jeehad), the destruction of "Offensive Kuffars" is the sole responsibility imposed on us being muslims. Tell me what will you say when our Prophet(Sallalahu-Allih-e-wassallam) will ask you about your acts towards the unity of Ummat at the time of need?
I hope you can understand what i am saying.
Regards,
Muhammad Amir
Essal-e-Sawab as per Hanafi Code through Recitation of Quran-e-Karim is not only allowed but it is also much appreciable activity but the "MURAWWIJ" system of so called "QURAN-KHUWANI" is having so many wrong things in it,
1)People who are invited for it(Quran-Khuwani) take it as their social duty and a burden of society on them rather than their religious responsibility.
2)I mayself saw so many people who recite quran by escaping 2/3 pages and some of the people complete it in 10 to 15 minutes.
3)Some of them even do not stop reading quran at the time of AZAN and at the time of quran Khuwani lot of people left their namaz.
In one of the Ahadith our prophet(Sallalahu-Allih-e-wassallam) has said that "NEEK-OWLAD" is Sawab-e-Jaria for parents.
"NEEK OWLAD" is sawab-e-jaria in a way that they remember their parents in their Prayers, always pray for them and always make "Essal-e-Sawab" of their good deeds for them.
So, as per Imam Abu Hanifa(Rehmatullah-e-Allih) Essal-e-Sawab is allowed and it is Jaiz as long as it has been done by closely related people of the deceased person and it has been done by those who do it by their will(i.e. as their religious responsibility not their social responsibility or societal burden).
Mr Zakir Naik and Co.(Including Dr.Israr Ahmed and Dr. Farahat Hashmi[Fitna Gar Aurat]) in my opinion can be having a good knowledge of different religions and faiths like Jewism, Christianity, Hinduism and other religions and faiths but their knowledge of different religions do not make them AALIM-E-DEEN of FIQAH. FIQAH is very different field and in the history of Ummat there were so many big Faqih like Imam Ibn-e-Taimia, Mullah Ali Qari, Hazrat Shah Wali Ullah Dehalvi and other big names(Rehmatullah-e-Alihim) so please go and read the literature of these people of knowledge rather then wasting your time in reading the material of IRF(we know who are on back of these people).
If your faith disallows you from Essal-e-Sawab don't do it but if other faiths allow it then you do not have a right to refrain them by saying it as 'bidah'.
In the above post the answering person has told us the definition of 'Bidah' and Ahadiths relating to 'Bidah' not relating to Essal-e-sawab and he has said that Essal-e-Sawab is Innovation(Bibah) but he didn't prove that how it is an innovation but i proved it as allowable activity through Hadith that "Neek Owlad is Sawab-e-Jaria for parents".
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Sarfaraz</i>
<b>However it is allowed to pray for the deceased and give charity for him, as there is no difference of opinion in this regard.</b><hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
If it is allowed to pray(i.e. Dua-e-Maghfirat) for deceased and to give Charity(i.e. Sadaqa-O-Kherat) for deceased then I have following questions.
1)In case of "Qaboliat" of "Dua-e-Maghfirat" will Allah forgive a deceased person on his/her previous wrong deeds?
2)Will those Sadaqa-O-Kherat reach to a deceased person(i.e. will Allah reward him for sadqa given by others on his behalf)?
If the answers of both questions are in "YES" then why can't Allah give a sawab to deceased person on recitation of quran by others on his behalf, and if you and your IRF still disagree then i very respectfully ask that Is the definition of "SADAQA" according to you and IRF evolves around the outflow of "CURRENCY" only.
Isn't it a Sadaqa to recite quran on behalf of your deceased ones, If you and your IRF has restricted the definition of Sadaqa to the outflow to currency then i can't do anything further for you(KUCH KHOPRI KA ISTIMAL BHI KARLIA KARO BHAI!).
I know there are some differences among Ummat-e-Muslima in different faiths and practices but for the greater interest of Ummah we should refrain us from pin pointing these issues, we should unite ourselves on a one point agenda(i.e. Jeehad), the destruction of "Offensive Kuffars" is the sole responsibility imposed on us being muslims. Tell me what will you say when our Prophet(Sallalahu-Allih-e-wassallam) will ask you about your acts towards the unity of Ummat at the time of need?
I hope you can understand what i am saying.
Regards,
Muhammad Amir
