01-19-2005, 03:38 AM
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IF there is nothing about a matter in Hadith and Quran,then it doen not means that it is halal or haram.eg Quran says that we should say prayers but there is nothing in Quran about the timings and method of salat.
Similiraly,there is no hadith and Quranic verse about bank job but there is common consensus among all the Alma"s of pakistan that bank job is haram in pakistan.A job in any bank situated in pakistan is Haram.There are some banks in india where it is not Haram.
bilal
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Dear Brother,
Do we have any hadith or sunnah in which the holy Prophet (PBUH) himself condemned a person who worked UNDER a person earning from interest? I mean, surely during His (PBUH) own lifetime, He would have seen servants working under the people (For e.g. jews who were earning from interest). But did he ever stop such servants from working ? Or said something which implied that one should leave work under them as soon as possible?
Did the Quran, in any way ban an individual from working under a person or organization earning through interest? If not, then u cannot just passout a DEFINITE ISLAMIC LAW saying that working under a bank is just HARAM. What logical basis do u have for that?
I have already pointed out, that to have IJMA (or consensus of the Islamic community), it is essential that no one disagrees over such an issue. But here in the case of Bank Jobs, I havent came under a single concrete fatwa in which all the Islamic scholars of the world have declared that working under banks is HARAM. Some say that u should leave it, other say its HALAL, while others declare it to be HARAM. So clearly, there isnt a CONSENSUS.
What we do have a consensus on, is that Interest or Riba is HARAM in Islam, when the person who is charging interest is charging enormous amounts.
Do we have any logical reasoning (QIYAS) for this fatwa of urs? If there is so, I would surely like to read it.
IF there is nothing about a matter in Hadith and Quran,then it doen not means that it is halal or haram.eg Quran says that we should say prayers but there is nothing in Quran about the timings and method of salat.
Similiraly,there is no hadith and Quranic verse about bank job but there is common consensus among all the Alma"s of pakistan that bank job is haram in pakistan.A job in any bank situated in pakistan is Haram.There are some banks in india where it is not Haram.
bilal
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Dear Brother,
Do we have any hadith or sunnah in which the holy Prophet (PBUH) himself condemned a person who worked UNDER a person earning from interest? I mean, surely during His (PBUH) own lifetime, He would have seen servants working under the people (For e.g. jews who were earning from interest). But did he ever stop such servants from working ? Or said something which implied that one should leave work under them as soon as possible?
Did the Quran, in any way ban an individual from working under a person or organization earning through interest? If not, then u cannot just passout a DEFINITE ISLAMIC LAW saying that working under a bank is just HARAM. What logical basis do u have for that?
I have already pointed out, that to have IJMA (or consensus of the Islamic community), it is essential that no one disagrees over such an issue. But here in the case of Bank Jobs, I havent came under a single concrete fatwa in which all the Islamic scholars of the world have declared that working under banks is HARAM. Some say that u should leave it, other say its HALAL, while others declare it to be HARAM. So clearly, there isnt a CONSENSUS.
What we do have a consensus on, is that Interest or Riba is HARAM in Islam, when the person who is charging interest is charging enormous amounts.
Do we have any logical reasoning (QIYAS) for this fatwa of urs? If there is so, I would surely like to read it.
