04-02-2005, 10:33 AM
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<br />dear azeem shah khan!
a person do a thing secretly, people find that out and charge him as criminal. but there are some lucky people who do the same thing a bit openly and people refer to that as a part of tasawoff. (don't want to go in detail, because that will hurt)
and i certainly have mocked a few jokers who staged a drama in new york. never degraded namaz. that drama wasn't a namaz, i believe.
HOW I AM INTOLERANT?
i am not trying or asking people to stop others from practicing their beliefs. every one should practice what he or she believes to be true. intolerance is if somebody preaches to stop by force other people from preaching their religious beliefs. if i am just giving my opinion and refering it to as my personal thoughts then no body should feel hurt. because these are just my personal thoughts. ok, was prophet MOHAMMED (pbuh) and other prophets (A.S) were intolerant, when prohet Mhammed (pbuh) used to criticise the religious beliefs of people of Makkah, was he intolerant?? He just used to argue, never intended to use force. and even after the conquest of Makka, He didn't forced anybody to convert to islam. I am not at all saying that i am fighting a kufr against islam war. if i mock people who support mix congreagations, it doesn't mean i am saying that they are bound for hell. i am just trying to convey is that i don't agree with them, and there belief that mix-gathering jummah prayers under a woman's imamat are allowed is just a joke.
and there are other things which were quite irrelevent to the topic, but still were true; i have already said sorry for that. because this is not a place to discuss those things. I would repeat again that if somebody's feelings are hurt (thought they should never be, because these are just my personal opion) i can only feel sorry.
p.s. u seems to have that habbit of repeating clumsy jokes. still thanks for talking in a bit sensible way. and hope u won't get personal with me.
inta habieba omri, malikta omri
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Just for you, I am gonna write without CLUMSY jokes.
We don't live in a perfect world, it was never perfect and never will be. We must learn to live our own lives the way we want and let others follow whatever they believe in.
I never mentioned your other post about the New York interview, so leave that topic aside.
Brother, no-body can stop no-one, I dont agree with how you define Intolerance. Force has nothing to do with it.
I am not stopping you from having a constructive discussion. With your intellectual vocab, extreme respect for scholars of different school of thought and amazing sense of humour, I am afraid nobody will ever want to discuss anything. Go back and see what I wrote in my first post Ask questions the way they are asked.
I have no problem with your belief. All you need is the right way to express your-self which must include tolerance for other views and respect for other scholars. I dont think you need to be a genius to understand what I am saying.
I dont like to personally attack anyone, I have no intentions to do with you. However, I respond aggressively to any crap so do some other members, you know whom I am talking about. "Be careful" is all I can suggest you.
Now its your turn to come up with some SENSIBLE stuff (as you call it).
I would request DS and Zubair to calm down and see what Majid has got to offer us.
Kind regards
"You don't get to choose how you're going to die. Or when. You can only decide how you're going to live. Now."
<br />dear azeem shah khan!
a person do a thing secretly, people find that out and charge him as criminal. but there are some lucky people who do the same thing a bit openly and people refer to that as a part of tasawoff. (don't want to go in detail, because that will hurt)
and i certainly have mocked a few jokers who staged a drama in new york. never degraded namaz. that drama wasn't a namaz, i believe.
HOW I AM INTOLERANT?
i am not trying or asking people to stop others from practicing their beliefs. every one should practice what he or she believes to be true. intolerance is if somebody preaches to stop by force other people from preaching their religious beliefs. if i am just giving my opinion and refering it to as my personal thoughts then no body should feel hurt. because these are just my personal thoughts. ok, was prophet MOHAMMED (pbuh) and other prophets (A.S) were intolerant, when prohet Mhammed (pbuh) used to criticise the religious beliefs of people of Makkah, was he intolerant?? He just used to argue, never intended to use force. and even after the conquest of Makka, He didn't forced anybody to convert to islam. I am not at all saying that i am fighting a kufr against islam war. if i mock people who support mix congreagations, it doesn't mean i am saying that they are bound for hell. i am just trying to convey is that i don't agree with them, and there belief that mix-gathering jummah prayers under a woman's imamat are allowed is just a joke.
and there are other things which were quite irrelevent to the topic, but still were true; i have already said sorry for that. because this is not a place to discuss those things. I would repeat again that if somebody's feelings are hurt (thought they should never be, because these are just my personal opion) i can only feel sorry.
p.s. u seems to have that habbit of repeating clumsy jokes. still thanks for talking in a bit sensible way. and hope u won't get personal with me.
inta habieba omri, malikta omri
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Just for you, I am gonna write without CLUMSY jokes.
We don't live in a perfect world, it was never perfect and never will be. We must learn to live our own lives the way we want and let others follow whatever they believe in.
I never mentioned your other post about the New York interview, so leave that topic aside.
Brother, no-body can stop no-one, I dont agree with how you define Intolerance. Force has nothing to do with it.
I am not stopping you from having a constructive discussion. With your intellectual vocab, extreme respect for scholars of different school of thought and amazing sense of humour, I am afraid nobody will ever want to discuss anything. Go back and see what I wrote in my first post Ask questions the way they are asked.
I have no problem with your belief. All you need is the right way to express your-self which must include tolerance for other views and respect for other scholars. I dont think you need to be a genius to understand what I am saying.
I dont like to personally attack anyone, I have no intentions to do with you. However, I respond aggressively to any crap so do some other members, you know whom I am talking about. "Be careful" is all I can suggest you.
Now its your turn to come up with some SENSIBLE stuff (as you call it).
I would request DS and Zubair to calm down and see what Majid has got to offer us.
Kind regards
"You don't get to choose how you're going to die. Or when. You can only decide how you're going to live. Now."
