04-27-2005, 08:43 PM
on march 2, 1963 the border agreement between pakistan and china was signed in beijing. according to the agreement pakistan recieved an area of about 750 square miles which was previously under the control of china. this agreement is of a provisionary nature and it will be discussed again on accession of kashmir to pakistan. this is the pakistani version of the story.
how pakistan could have ceded aksai chin which was not under its control. also ladakh is a vast region and china had captured most of it in 1962, then returned all but some strategically important areas which now form aksai chin. as far as indian claims are concerned we all are aware of their exaggeration skills. hari singh must not have thought of controlling these far flung areas even when he was in the arms of his favorite woman and offcourse completely drunk. it's obvious when new settlement of kashmir will be reached aksai chin will be discussed again. china's interest in aksai chin is because of the road link that joins tibet and xinjiang autonomous region otherwise i think this area is totally useless. and certainly it will not be too difficult to solve it.
i didn't get what u mean from the following sentense. <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">originally posted by pracs
Keep in Mind China's explosive Muslin Population in the Southern Provinces. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
if u want to say they are kind of extremists or they believe in use of arms, the u are totally wrong. there is nothing in the recent history to support such opinion. yes in early 90's afghan tajiks tried to be smart but there was no real support for them from the locals. yes there is believed to be a few chinese muslims in taliban ranks, so what muslim extremists have joined them from all over the world even from US born white people. 10 or 12 people does not represent the whole community which according to official statistics is 18 million. muslims in china are only demanding the right to pracitice their beliefs and chinese government has changed it's policies dramatically in recent years.the age of mao is over and new china is modern. further we should keep in mind in china muslims were never targetted, yes there were restrictions but these were for people of all religions, not muslim specific. even in those times muslim areas had much more autonomy. still today muslim areas form the part of xinjiang and uygur autonomous region. muslims in china are backward, but it's causes are others. and with the new developments chinese government is spending much more on these areas.
ok, if for the time being we imagine that kashmir is independent and theri is a taliban like government ( which is impossible) and they are willing to support a seperatist movement in china. then the question, can they practically do it. the answer is a NO. they can't. simply because the geographic realities are very different from afghanistan or china. in case of afghanistan the insurgents can go and come back from afghanistan into pakistani tribal areas by travelling just one night. but in case of china and kashmir we will have to see if it's even possible to cross himalyan ranges through unknown tracks. if one say it's possible then the question how much it will take , the answer must be like one month.
these are just my predictions but these are obvious ones because all of us know about the heights of these mountains and vast glaciers where u can't move without using special equipment. the two regions are not as close as they look on map.
launching an insurgency from afghanistan or from kyrgyzstan into china is 100 times easy. and afterall america has strong bases in both these countreis. so why worry from an independent kashmir.
i wanted to write a bit more but already this post is very long. will discuss in future.
akhbarak eih habibbie??
how pakistan could have ceded aksai chin which was not under its control. also ladakh is a vast region and china had captured most of it in 1962, then returned all but some strategically important areas which now form aksai chin. as far as indian claims are concerned we all are aware of their exaggeration skills. hari singh must not have thought of controlling these far flung areas even when he was in the arms of his favorite woman and offcourse completely drunk. it's obvious when new settlement of kashmir will be reached aksai chin will be discussed again. china's interest in aksai chin is because of the road link that joins tibet and xinjiang autonomous region otherwise i think this area is totally useless. and certainly it will not be too difficult to solve it.
i didn't get what u mean from the following sentense. <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">originally posted by pracs
Keep in Mind China's explosive Muslin Population in the Southern Provinces. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
if u want to say they are kind of extremists or they believe in use of arms, the u are totally wrong. there is nothing in the recent history to support such opinion. yes in early 90's afghan tajiks tried to be smart but there was no real support for them from the locals. yes there is believed to be a few chinese muslims in taliban ranks, so what muslim extremists have joined them from all over the world even from US born white people. 10 or 12 people does not represent the whole community which according to official statistics is 18 million. muslims in china are only demanding the right to pracitice their beliefs and chinese government has changed it's policies dramatically in recent years.the age of mao is over and new china is modern. further we should keep in mind in china muslims were never targetted, yes there were restrictions but these were for people of all religions, not muslim specific. even in those times muslim areas had much more autonomy. still today muslim areas form the part of xinjiang and uygur autonomous region. muslims in china are backward, but it's causes are others. and with the new developments chinese government is spending much more on these areas.
ok, if for the time being we imagine that kashmir is independent and theri is a taliban like government ( which is impossible) and they are willing to support a seperatist movement in china. then the question, can they practically do it. the answer is a NO. they can't. simply because the geographic realities are very different from afghanistan or china. in case of afghanistan the insurgents can go and come back from afghanistan into pakistani tribal areas by travelling just one night. but in case of china and kashmir we will have to see if it's even possible to cross himalyan ranges through unknown tracks. if one say it's possible then the question how much it will take , the answer must be like one month.
these are just my predictions but these are obvious ones because all of us know about the heights of these mountains and vast glaciers where u can't move without using special equipment. the two regions are not as close as they look on map.
launching an insurgency from afghanistan or from kyrgyzstan into china is 100 times easy. and afterall america has strong bases in both these countreis. so why worry from an independent kashmir.
i wanted to write a bit more but already this post is very long. will discuss in future.
akhbarak eih habibbie??
