05-04-2005, 06:05 AM
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<br />and whats with this "China" loving thing with pakistanis? They have oppressed and murdered, and ARE oppressing and murdering muslims just like india is. we have to be HONEST. not HALF honest. or 75% honest. we can't, as muslims, ignore the situation of muslims in china. if we do sacrifice them for china's friendship, well, the HELL with such friendship. i don't need it. we have to learn to help ourselves instead of always relying on china or anybody else. otherwise, forget about dignity.
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it's just laughable (not speaker's post), when muslims were being opressed under mao tzetung regime, then nobody was speaking. and now when situation is getting better for chinese muslims, every one is recalling the past.
what you people want, do you want chinese muslims to wage a jihad against chinese governments. can you people realise what will be the result??? a massacre of chinese muslims. when you people will avenge Gujrat, then please tlkon this issue.
in china the situation today is totally different. chinese government is giving more and more religious freedom to every one. their society is opening up. muslim autonomous regions are recieving much more development aid. since muslim population is not in easily accessed areas, so they are not economically as strong, but certainly things are improving. here is something that will help to understand my point of view http//www.themodernreligion.com/convert/china.html
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Report on Chinese Muslim population
Beijing, Muharram 14/Apr 19 (IINA), 2000 - The number of Muslims in China is estimated at 200 million at the moment. Muslim traders introduced Islam to China way back in 681 AD, and there are ancient mosques in China that are over a thousand years old.
The Deputy President of the Chinese Muslim Society told ALDAWA that there are 3,500 mosques in China at the moment, with the number of Imams standing at 4,000. He said that Muslims in China are now living in state of relief and openness, particularly for the last twenty years, adding that before that they were being persecuted and oppressed. He said now new mosques are being built, and the number of Muslims is on the increase in the country as a whole, with many Muslims attending mosques and prayers regularly.
The Deputy President of the Chinese Muslim Society went on to say that there nine Islamic universities in China at the moment, and attached to every mosque is a Quran schools. This means that there are 3,500 Quran schools, in which the Quran, Hadith and the Islamic doctrine are being taught, with attendance being on the increase. Furthermore, he said, there are Chinese Muslim students pursuing further Islamic Studies at universities in Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and Algeria, at the same time learning the Arabic language.
The majority of Chinese Muslims are involved in commerce and industry, and cooperation between China and Islamic countries has its salutary and positive effect on the Muslim community in China, said the Deputy President.
He appealed for an increase in the number of scholarships that are extended to Chinese students, and also support for Islamic schools and universities, in addition to the sending of Daawa activists and supporting the Islamic publications that are published in China.
He pointed out that the Chinese government does give support to the Islamic schools, and also repairs mosques.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
we muslims better cocentrate on ourselves, especially our moral values. and offcourse educate ourselves. if we do that no wonder a huge polulation in china will feel interest in this true way of life.
p.s we must keep this thing in mind that past policies of chinese government were not muslim-specific. they were for all (religions). and on foreign front, no other country has helped and contributed for the causes of muslims like china did. my post is already too long so no need to repeat them.
akhbarak eih habibbie??
<br />and whats with this "China" loving thing with pakistanis? They have oppressed and murdered, and ARE oppressing and murdering muslims just like india is. we have to be HONEST. not HALF honest. or 75% honest. we can't, as muslims, ignore the situation of muslims in china. if we do sacrifice them for china's friendship, well, the HELL with such friendship. i don't need it. we have to learn to help ourselves instead of always relying on china or anybody else. otherwise, forget about dignity.
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it's just laughable (not speaker's post), when muslims were being opressed under mao tzetung regime, then nobody was speaking. and now when situation is getting better for chinese muslims, every one is recalling the past.
what you people want, do you want chinese muslims to wage a jihad against chinese governments. can you people realise what will be the result??? a massacre of chinese muslims. when you people will avenge Gujrat, then please tlkon this issue.
in china the situation today is totally different. chinese government is giving more and more religious freedom to every one. their society is opening up. muslim autonomous regions are recieving much more development aid. since muslim population is not in easily accessed areas, so they are not economically as strong, but certainly things are improving. here is something that will help to understand my point of view http//www.themodernreligion.com/convert/china.html
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Report on Chinese Muslim population
Beijing, Muharram 14/Apr 19 (IINA), 2000 - The number of Muslims in China is estimated at 200 million at the moment. Muslim traders introduced Islam to China way back in 681 AD, and there are ancient mosques in China that are over a thousand years old.
The Deputy President of the Chinese Muslim Society told ALDAWA that there are 3,500 mosques in China at the moment, with the number of Imams standing at 4,000. He said that Muslims in China are now living in state of relief and openness, particularly for the last twenty years, adding that before that they were being persecuted and oppressed. He said now new mosques are being built, and the number of Muslims is on the increase in the country as a whole, with many Muslims attending mosques and prayers regularly.
The Deputy President of the Chinese Muslim Society went on to say that there nine Islamic universities in China at the moment, and attached to every mosque is a Quran schools. This means that there are 3,500 Quran schools, in which the Quran, Hadith and the Islamic doctrine are being taught, with attendance being on the increase. Furthermore, he said, there are Chinese Muslim students pursuing further Islamic Studies at universities in Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and Algeria, at the same time learning the Arabic language.
The majority of Chinese Muslims are involved in commerce and industry, and cooperation between China and Islamic countries has its salutary and positive effect on the Muslim community in China, said the Deputy President.
He appealed for an increase in the number of scholarships that are extended to Chinese students, and also support for Islamic schools and universities, in addition to the sending of Daawa activists and supporting the Islamic publications that are published in China.
He pointed out that the Chinese government does give support to the Islamic schools, and also repairs mosques.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
we muslims better cocentrate on ourselves, especially our moral values. and offcourse educate ourselves. if we do that no wonder a huge polulation in china will feel interest in this true way of life.
p.s we must keep this thing in mind that past policies of chinese government were not muslim-specific. they were for all (religions). and on foreign front, no other country has helped and contributed for the causes of muslims like china did. my post is already too long so no need to repeat them.
akhbarak eih habibbie??
