Proud to be a Pakistani

ehson · 05-23-2005, 11:32 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by fahim239
 Man, too much of newspaper reading, Iâm afraid. Iâm sure a Western media person wouldnât have painted such a bleak and negative picture like you did. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
i'm really happy to finally meet a man who doesnt believe in 'much of news paper reading'. And you are very right Western media wouldnt have painted a 'break and negative' picture like the lion_king did. What might be the reason? one could be they have nothing to worry about they are happy that this nation 'wants' to be like them. And staying away from the newspapers look around you. You'd find many people who could spend 30K for one night for a prostitute they spend, more than what an average household in middle class spend to thier house, on Alchol. Would you like to talk about the student of my country? look around you and you would find majority trying to find ways of how to cheat in the exam. Where a should sould disscuss the ideas, look around you, you'd find many males discussing females and viceversa.

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by fahim239
 
The story of IMF and World Bank is a past history now, my dude. Thanks to the efforts of the present government, we arenât financially dependent on them any more. You better upgrade you info on this, as the same is being said by the very funding agencies, youâve alluded to.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
), we sure are no more dpendent on them 'any more'. Why then we are dictated by them. staying away from the newspapers i know some CSS officers who interact with the IMF and World Bank and trust me you wouldnt want to know about the extent to which our policies are formulated by them. I'm sure no newspaper would tell you that. Becuase off course they delivered filtered information.

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by fahim239
 
Javed Hashmi is behind the bars, and he should be. I donât see any reason why some patriot Pakistani would concoct such a vile story like he did.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
), which story are you reffering to my friend. The one published in "newspapers" or the one you found out. And I really think that we sould avoid passing remarks on individuals specially on them whom we donnt know well. I'd just tell you a simple thing about Javed Hashmi. He owns a SUZUKI FX. people who held the same positions as he did are millionairs. i'm sure you understand that a 'patriot pakistani'if given power must not try to rob the nation and money which belongs to the poor. Not only that my dear, the ask the poor pakistani how difficult it is to survive in this country. yet your bought 6 limo mercs with bomb proof floors for the SARC Summit. Imagine investing this amount not on buying cars but on building industries which would be better for individuals of your nation?

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by fahim239
 
There was no reason at all to go for such a cheap trick like he did. And all this was becoz he had some self-centered political interests for his own faction of the party. Newspapers, TV channels and almost all the opposition party leaders are up against the army but only in a constructive and positive manner.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Which cheap tricks the one you read in "newspapers" or the one you know for fact.

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by fahim239
 
We havenât seen any arrests of those people, which manifests the fact that this govt. is far more accommodative to such critical approaches.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">You havent seen any arrest becuase you dont want to. I know an individual who was arrested for the crime of more than 5 murders. Meet his family and you'd know what is happing around you.

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by fahim239
 
You must keep in mind that in the Nawaz era, even a media man, Najam Sethi of Friday Times, was cuffed just becoz he published a story regarding the corruption of the ruling party.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Freedom of speach we are talking about here. Well brother here are some facts for you. There was an article published in SouthAsian Tribune, the title read "UNLIMITED CORRUPTION OF THE MUSHARRAF JUNTA"
Try to find out what happend with the poor chap's family who runs the SA Tribune. Try to find out why the website of SA Tribune was not accessable from pakistan which this article was on the main page of this website. And visit this site please it would give you some of the inside of the things happening around you. And try to find the above mentioned article.

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by fahim239
 
The man responsible for the rap case in Dera Bugti, in Dr. Shaziaâs own words, wasnât the army captain but a paid thug of Bugti clan.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
May lord keep you safe from the Army personal my friend. I know what its like to speak against them. I'm not suggesting in any manner that the person responsible for this rape was an army captin but i can tell say this much for sure it is not easy to "say what you dont want to say" when you are dealing against the army. And I'm sure you didnt get the doctor's words from the "newspapers".
And I wonder why the 'paid thug of Bugti' came accross a need of raping a doctor all of a sudden. They did exited from the very begining of Pakistan

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by fahim239
 
Yes, itâs matter of shame for Muslims around the globe what happened to the Holy Quran in the G. Bay. But why to blame our own country for that and going that far as to be ashamed of it.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Becuase we dont want other countries to insult our religious scripts and we are not bothered if anyone else raise the voice or not, we must. I persoanlly believe its is an obligaion.

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by fahim239
 
The simple fact that the present govt. supports the U.S. in its war on terrorism doesnât mean that whatever happens on a personal level in the U.S. army or in the U.S. is the established policy of our government or that of the U.S. The sooner we differentiate between the two, the better we comprehend the whole scenario. The same is the case with the Washington Postâs cartoon.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"> I really doubt if our friend lion_king has mixed the scenarios you've mentioned above. secondly try to make a cartoom dipicting US as a dog. get it published in a newspaper. we'd see the impact that it has on the people of US and how the govt. of US would react on this. then we would better be able to realise if we are over reacting or not. As an example i'd like to quote s'thing which just came in my mind. I rearly watch TV but once i was watching GEO TV after 9/11. There was some sort of programm and the two guests were a mother and a sister who had lost thier son and brother in US. the poor chap was in US for his higher education. after 9/11 some guys killed him while he was shoping. the killers were never identified or arrested. and lad who died is unknown to i guess everyone but his family. what did the CIA, INTERPOL, FBI, LOCAL POLICE do to find the killers, god knows. i cant tell you how bad i felt when i saw to mother and the daughter crying.
Now, another poor chap, who happens to be an American comes to pakistan. he got killed after 9/11 in Pakistan. probably the same feeling were carreid by the killers of both the cases i.e. rage against a perticular religion/nation. but hey what did the CIA, INTERPOL, FBI, LOCAL POLICE do this time? And the person who died is known around the world.
The only mistake of the first victim was that he was a Pakistani. i guess.

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by fahim239
 
In my opinion, the major cause of our desperate and shameful state of affairs is this single fact we Muslims donât have our house in order. Notwithstanding the fact that Muslims constitute 1/5th of the worldâs population; they got manpower; they got natural resources; and all the nuts and bolts required for a superpower, we are still divided in almost 5 dozen countries. Unless and until Muslims around the world doesnât show their willingness to get united as a single entity and a single nation, weâll be prone to the physical and psychological attacks by the Western powers.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
totally agree to this point.

<blockquote id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by fahim239
 

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