06-14-2005, 10:10 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by sam</i>
<br />They are the one who make the Salat of the dead . They are the one who offer Nikah arrangement for us.And please dont forget that they dont live in the kind of luxuries like we do.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
with all due respect brother I think the duties like leading the salat for the dead or the nikkah dont have to be performed by them. Why they do it? it is another story. So I think this has nothing to do with the respect that they should get.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by taabi</i>
<br />They get nothing out of it , they are doing it for the sake of Islam ,<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">I see tabi touching one extreem and you touching the other. You see there are some people who might not be as you say they are. They might put the materialistic world more prior than the other. You see in our community ther are example of all sorts of people so lets be practicle and moderate.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by taabi</i>
<br />....by saying things like this you will be accounted on the judgement day ,...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Brother Allah (swt) knows better who would be accounted for what. Let us leave that matter to him and pray that Allah(swt) would have his mercy on all of the Muslims. If I may say some more on this point, you see Prophet Muhammad (s) was beaten by the non Muslims when he was preaching but he never said anything like "Allah (swt) would hold you accoutnable for this and for that". So using the most perfet man in the world as an example I think we should point out other and pray from Allah (swt) to have his mercey, blessings on that person. So suppose even if tabi was wrong, you should have been more kind.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by taabi</i>
<br />I have seen myself and i have been sitting with many pious people .I have seen both of the worlds , they are the guide for us because they know Islam.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">You see, again you must have had your experiance with very pious people but that does not mean every one who says I'm a scholar is actually pious. I've personally seen some black sheeps as well. So as said earlier, our community has both good and the bad scholars.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by taabi</i>
<br />But we are the ones we dont wanna know Islam because we want to spend our lives in Gunahs and we deny the day of the Judgement.Please takecare next time when you say wrong things about Real People of the Islam.
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I think you should be little bit carefull as well, becuase you are also touching the exteem. ).
<br />They are the one who make the Salat of the dead . They are the one who offer Nikah arrangement for us.And please dont forget that they dont live in the kind of luxuries like we do.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
with all due respect brother I think the duties like leading the salat for the dead or the nikkah dont have to be performed by them. Why they do it? it is another story. So I think this has nothing to do with the respect that they should get.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by taabi</i>
<br />They get nothing out of it , they are doing it for the sake of Islam ,<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">I see tabi touching one extreem and you touching the other. You see there are some people who might not be as you say they are. They might put the materialistic world more prior than the other. You see in our community ther are example of all sorts of people so lets be practicle and moderate.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by taabi</i>
<br />....by saying things like this you will be accounted on the judgement day ,...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Brother Allah (swt) knows better who would be accounted for what. Let us leave that matter to him and pray that Allah(swt) would have his mercy on all of the Muslims. If I may say some more on this point, you see Prophet Muhammad (s) was beaten by the non Muslims when he was preaching but he never said anything like "Allah (swt) would hold you accoutnable for this and for that". So using the most perfet man in the world as an example I think we should point out other and pray from Allah (swt) to have his mercey, blessings on that person. So suppose even if tabi was wrong, you should have been more kind.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by taabi</i>
<br />I have seen myself and i have been sitting with many pious people .I have seen both of the worlds , they are the guide for us because they know Islam.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">You see, again you must have had your experiance with very pious people but that does not mean every one who says I'm a scholar is actually pious. I've personally seen some black sheeps as well. So as said earlier, our community has both good and the bad scholars.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by taabi</i>
<br />But we are the ones we dont wanna know Islam because we want to spend our lives in Gunahs and we deny the day of the Judgement.Please takecare next time when you say wrong things about Real People of the Islam.
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I think you should be little bit carefull as well, becuase you are also touching the exteem. ).