07-15-2007, 04:10 PM
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<br />Kamran I think its not very easy to change anyone's opinion. As some body said that "Opinions are ultimately determined by feelings and not by intellect". So I think being unbiased in making opinions is something really very difficult to achieve.
The further problem in such incidents is, where the name of religion is used we people are not ready to listen to any thing.
I am never in much favour of the outcomes of enlightened moderation, however, still its much better than religious exteremism.
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Mr Kamaran & Schuaeb Sahib,
Jee Jee yahan zara see Islam kee baat karo tou foran Extremism ka taana mill jaata hai. Just like people are calling Late Ghazi as extremist. I wonder why only in case of religion we have this word EXTREMIST. why we dont use it with the evil acts where it should be used. Like Politicians are extremist in corruption. Govt has acted as an extremeist while solving Lal Masjid matter. Our Muslims are going towards extremism in Fahashi. Zana is getting extremely common day by day among muslims too. America is an extremist country. Yaar kiyun you so highly educated and mature people are using such words for your own fellow people. Dont you think if you call people for what they are not, will end up in converting them into the same??? If you call a student in Lal Masjid that you are extremist, you are extremist,you are extremist,you are extremist. Woh tou extremist nahin bhi ho ga tou ban jaey ga. As you people think that they have forgotton their religion, where is yours then? Forgiveness bhi koi cheese hai ya nahin. And please donot remind me the 6 months period given to them. Who knows they had been trying with govt in peaceful ways too. Govt would have not bothered to what they were saying. Result tou yehi nikalna tha. But ofcourse the punishment would have not been DEATH.
I dont live in Pakistan, i work in highly prestigious engineering firm of America, i have british, americans, scottish, turkish,jordanians, indians, Egyptians, Polish, Italian, all nationalities around me. I never ever used this word infront of them while describing Muslims. There is a difference between Ghazi and his co. and extremist Talibaans. Why r you putting everything in same pot and try to cook something delicious?
This is all our govt and foreign govts who are feeding us with this word and the idea behind it. And the long term consequences that i am seeing is that there will be a time that all the muslims will be called extremists and they will treated as animals.
In my other posts i said it and saying it again now, that i am not supporting the act of Ghazi and co but the way our govt has responded is absoultely wrong. Was there no other way out of this impasse? I said it once before in some of my other post that earlier Christians, jews and Hindus were calling us extremists, and killing us, involving us in all kind of terrorist acts. NOw after this incident, where a muslims ruler has killed his own country muslims with his own bare hands, we have stamped the idea of Muslims being only TERRORISTS and EXTREMISTS. Yeh kahan ka insaaf hai ke apnon ke saath bhi waisa hi salook kiya jaaey jaisa ghairon ke saath hota hai????????????? i thought Blood is always thicker then water.
<br />Kamran I think its not very easy to change anyone's opinion. As some body said that "Opinions are ultimately determined by feelings and not by intellect". So I think being unbiased in making opinions is something really very difficult to achieve.
The further problem in such incidents is, where the name of religion is used we people are not ready to listen to any thing.
I am never in much favour of the outcomes of enlightened moderation, however, still its much better than religious exteremism.
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Mr Kamaran & Schuaeb Sahib,
Jee Jee yahan zara see Islam kee baat karo tou foran Extremism ka taana mill jaata hai. Just like people are calling Late Ghazi as extremist. I wonder why only in case of religion we have this word EXTREMIST. why we dont use it with the evil acts where it should be used. Like Politicians are extremist in corruption. Govt has acted as an extremeist while solving Lal Masjid matter. Our Muslims are going towards extremism in Fahashi. Zana is getting extremely common day by day among muslims too. America is an extremist country. Yaar kiyun you so highly educated and mature people are using such words for your own fellow people. Dont you think if you call people for what they are not, will end up in converting them into the same??? If you call a student in Lal Masjid that you are extremist, you are extremist,you are extremist,you are extremist. Woh tou extremist nahin bhi ho ga tou ban jaey ga. As you people think that they have forgotton their religion, where is yours then? Forgiveness bhi koi cheese hai ya nahin. And please donot remind me the 6 months period given to them. Who knows they had been trying with govt in peaceful ways too. Govt would have not bothered to what they were saying. Result tou yehi nikalna tha. But ofcourse the punishment would have not been DEATH.
I dont live in Pakistan, i work in highly prestigious engineering firm of America, i have british, americans, scottish, turkish,jordanians, indians, Egyptians, Polish, Italian, all nationalities around me. I never ever used this word infront of them while describing Muslims. There is a difference between Ghazi and his co. and extremist Talibaans. Why r you putting everything in same pot and try to cook something delicious?
This is all our govt and foreign govts who are feeding us with this word and the idea behind it. And the long term consequences that i am seeing is that there will be a time that all the muslims will be called extremists and they will treated as animals.
In my other posts i said it and saying it again now, that i am not supporting the act of Ghazi and co but the way our govt has responded is absoultely wrong. Was there no other way out of this impasse? I said it once before in some of my other post that earlier Christians, jews and Hindus were calling us extremists, and killing us, involving us in all kind of terrorist acts. NOw after this incident, where a muslims ruler has killed his own country muslims with his own bare hands, we have stamped the idea of Muslims being only TERRORISTS and EXTREMISTS. Yeh kahan ka insaaf hai ke apnon ke saath bhi waisa hi salook kiya jaaey jaisa ghairon ke saath hota hai????????????? i thought Blood is always thicker then water.
