07-30-2007, 06:05 PM
Dears,
No one should deem the non-posting of messages from me as a sign of my defeat. I Alhamdolillah feel that I am substantially on correct path. This is my faith and faith has nothing to do with changing the ideas of others un-necessarily as Mr. Amir said that every one has to lay down in his own grave. Further, Holy Quran says that there is no compulsion or binding in faith (Deen). Whenever I quoted my ideas, these were purely my ideas and were never aimed at to alter the thoughts of Amir , Imran or any body else. Irrespective of whatever I think in my mind about the rigids I no where call them Kafir or Dushmanan-e-Deen. I pray for them that may God give them wisdom and vision to understand the issues. Same prayer one should offer for me, if he/she is faithful to others as a human being or muslim.
How rigid is to present own ideas with all of the best efforts trying utmost to change the others' faith and at the same time throughing dirt and offering cheapness to others who are also stating what is their point of view. I no where asked or forced any one to change his faith or view point. I apparently cannot do it and I have no need to do it. I always said that bala bala is my view point and it has never been purposed to change what others feel. Wherever the things appeared positive or agreeable to my apprehension, I have agreed on that. One can see my discussions with Coollioness and others. Yes, no rigid can abstain me from saying what comes to my apprehension as a correct stance. I am not a hypocrite or cowrdice. I have been challenging these rigids even when there was a threat to my life in my colleges becoz the idols and taboos of thoughts have to be discussed openly. I have been doing so and will Inshallah keep on doing so upto my last breath. Yes, I might be wrong as per some others' view point and if some one thinks so, he has to prove it with reference to ground realities, references of Quran, Hadees and Sunnah. He/she also should pray for me so that I may be enlightened on correct path by the blessing of Allah as the hearts (minds) are in the control of Allah. Simply abusing me cannot make me to change my view point. Come on this forum, and discuss as per Quran, Hadees, history, Ijmah-e-Ummat and logic. Dont mess up the things.
My absence from the forum is on account of the murder of a very close friend of mine (aged 38). There is no clue of this murder as he had have no enemity. He was going to his dairy farm early in the morning at 5.15 AM in his car after offering Namaz-e-Fajar and reciting Hol Quran (as per witnesses) and was murdered in the way to the farm. He was a very noble man of Allah, was following all Sunnah, and was a hadees learner. He was from Ehal-e-Hadees brothers and was also the member of Jamat-ud-Dawa. However, he never participated in religious debates of any conflictive nature. I had have some Nazrayati Ikhtalaf with him but irrespective of it he was a very nice and easy going person and was a very loving friend. We are feeling immense grief for his untimely death. He left three kids from 3 years to 8 years aged. INNA LILLAH-E-WA INNA ALEHE-RAJEOON. May Allah bless him with Jannat-ul-Firdous. Ameen. Forum members are requested to offer Fateha for him.
I will come back to the discussion after some time.
Yes, Dear Mr. Shoaib / Mr. Pracs,
I have courage to face cheapness and rigidity. I think if I will not do it then who other will we look for. Something every person should do.
I dont misbehave with Amir or Imran, as their vulgarity do not affect me, my family back ground status of my family before my father's death, at the time of my father's death and after the lapse of some time after my father's death and my belief. God says in Holy Quran that he rotates the days (circumstances) among the human beings. I am from a respectable, renowned and educated zameendar family. Alhamdolillah. I dont have to prove it for reducing the cheapness of Imran or anybody else. Every one should have fear of Allah while giving statements. No body knows when his parents will die leaving them alone and when they will die leaving their dependents alone.
Hoping to talk to u again very soon Inshallah.
Thank you very much Shoaib, Coolioness and Pracs for stating the truth.
Best regards,
Kamran.
No one should deem the non-posting of messages from me as a sign of my defeat. I Alhamdolillah feel that I am substantially on correct path. This is my faith and faith has nothing to do with changing the ideas of others un-necessarily as Mr. Amir said that every one has to lay down in his own grave. Further, Holy Quran says that there is no compulsion or binding in faith (Deen). Whenever I quoted my ideas, these were purely my ideas and were never aimed at to alter the thoughts of Amir , Imran or any body else. Irrespective of whatever I think in my mind about the rigids I no where call them Kafir or Dushmanan-e-Deen. I pray for them that may God give them wisdom and vision to understand the issues. Same prayer one should offer for me, if he/she is faithful to others as a human being or muslim.
How rigid is to present own ideas with all of the best efforts trying utmost to change the others' faith and at the same time throughing dirt and offering cheapness to others who are also stating what is their point of view. I no where asked or forced any one to change his faith or view point. I apparently cannot do it and I have no need to do it. I always said that bala bala is my view point and it has never been purposed to change what others feel. Wherever the things appeared positive or agreeable to my apprehension, I have agreed on that. One can see my discussions with Coollioness and others. Yes, no rigid can abstain me from saying what comes to my apprehension as a correct stance. I am not a hypocrite or cowrdice. I have been challenging these rigids even when there was a threat to my life in my colleges becoz the idols and taboos of thoughts have to be discussed openly. I have been doing so and will Inshallah keep on doing so upto my last breath. Yes, I might be wrong as per some others' view point and if some one thinks so, he has to prove it with reference to ground realities, references of Quran, Hadees and Sunnah. He/she also should pray for me so that I may be enlightened on correct path by the blessing of Allah as the hearts (minds) are in the control of Allah. Simply abusing me cannot make me to change my view point. Come on this forum, and discuss as per Quran, Hadees, history, Ijmah-e-Ummat and logic. Dont mess up the things.
My absence from the forum is on account of the murder of a very close friend of mine (aged 38). There is no clue of this murder as he had have no enemity. He was going to his dairy farm early in the morning at 5.15 AM in his car after offering Namaz-e-Fajar and reciting Hol Quran (as per witnesses) and was murdered in the way to the farm. He was a very noble man of Allah, was following all Sunnah, and was a hadees learner. He was from Ehal-e-Hadees brothers and was also the member of Jamat-ud-Dawa. However, he never participated in religious debates of any conflictive nature. I had have some Nazrayati Ikhtalaf with him but irrespective of it he was a very nice and easy going person and was a very loving friend. We are feeling immense grief for his untimely death. He left three kids from 3 years to 8 years aged. INNA LILLAH-E-WA INNA ALEHE-RAJEOON. May Allah bless him with Jannat-ul-Firdous. Ameen. Forum members are requested to offer Fateha for him.
I will come back to the discussion after some time.
Yes, Dear Mr. Shoaib / Mr. Pracs,
I have courage to face cheapness and rigidity. I think if I will not do it then who other will we look for. Something every person should do.
I dont misbehave with Amir or Imran, as their vulgarity do not affect me, my family back ground status of my family before my father's death, at the time of my father's death and after the lapse of some time after my father's death and my belief. God says in Holy Quran that he rotates the days (circumstances) among the human beings. I am from a respectable, renowned and educated zameendar family. Alhamdolillah. I dont have to prove it for reducing the cheapness of Imran or anybody else. Every one should have fear of Allah while giving statements. No body knows when his parents will die leaving them alone and when they will die leaving their dependents alone.
Hoping to talk to u again very soon Inshallah.
Thank you very much Shoaib, Coolioness and Pracs for stating the truth.
Best regards,
Kamran.
