10-02-2007, 12:31 AM
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<br />Schuaib is right......
if there are practices continuing for long time that doesn't make them right...
we hear the words "learning", "professional competence", "mentor/counselling person", "exposure"...etc etc.........these are all words for the sake of it....
my biggest complaint besides those mentioned by schuaib is the allocation of students to different jobs and different heads.....
no one cares when assigning jobs whether a person needs exposure to other areas and other clients...
one person is made to do same client and same head again n again.......
also, when there are juniors.......the managers need to provide equal opportunity to all of them so that they have necessary skills and experience as soon as possible so that they can progress to ranks of semi-senior and senior in due time....
if a student keeps doing same heads and stupid clients again and again.....he can't get the required skills to work at other clients....
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Yaar this was exactly my point, right after I completed my previous post this the most important point I failed to include, which I decided to put later. Thanks to you who very effectively told my point.
So, the matter is management does not at all care for a student's time or learning. They just want to get their task accomplished. This behaviour is enough to get a motivated student totally reluctant.
Kamran, like always you have made the things pretty simple by saying that this is what CA is famous for and all these are child like complaints.
To tell you more, you may not be the only one who is famoust for late sittings. Late sittings are no issue, but when you are reasonlessly made to sit for long hours and are not lett off if you have much more important personal engagement.
May be you are right that its the firm's name that is going to count at the end of your tenure, the management by the virtue of its postion come in an ideal situation to exploit students, so why should not they.
You know that in many firms, all I know, the circulars of CASA are not allowed to be pasted on notice board, so most of the students are unaware of this thing completely.
Kamran in your post I really find nothing that deserved further clarification, infacts it seems that you are aware of all this injustice and are advising students to develop the habit of living with them because they are unavoidable.
<br />Schuaib is right......
if there are practices continuing for long time that doesn't make them right...
we hear the words "learning", "professional competence", "mentor/counselling person", "exposure"...etc etc.........these are all words for the sake of it....
my biggest complaint besides those mentioned by schuaib is the allocation of students to different jobs and different heads.....
no one cares when assigning jobs whether a person needs exposure to other areas and other clients...
one person is made to do same client and same head again n again.......
also, when there are juniors.......the managers need to provide equal opportunity to all of them so that they have necessary skills and experience as soon as possible so that they can progress to ranks of semi-senior and senior in due time....
if a student keeps doing same heads and stupid clients again and again.....he can't get the required skills to work at other clients....
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Yaar this was exactly my point, right after I completed my previous post this the most important point I failed to include, which I decided to put later. Thanks to you who very effectively told my point.
So, the matter is management does not at all care for a student's time or learning. They just want to get their task accomplished. This behaviour is enough to get a motivated student totally reluctant.
Kamran, like always you have made the things pretty simple by saying that this is what CA is famous for and all these are child like complaints.
To tell you more, you may not be the only one who is famoust for late sittings. Late sittings are no issue, but when you are reasonlessly made to sit for long hours and are not lett off if you have much more important personal engagement.
May be you are right that its the firm's name that is going to count at the end of your tenure, the management by the virtue of its postion come in an ideal situation to exploit students, so why should not they.
You know that in many firms, all I know, the circulars of CASA are not allowed to be pasted on notice board, so most of the students are unaware of this thing completely.
Kamran in your post I really find nothing that deserved further clarification, infacts it seems that you are aware of all this injustice and are advising students to develop the habit of living with them because they are unavoidable.