11-22-2007, 11:21 PM
Dear Kamran,
Thanks for staying at the thread and consedering my request. However, your post is denying that any thing can be proved by any logic.
But something at least positive is there, there had been a bit of consensus. I guess you are no more of the view that no body wants to play with us due to the deed of officials. And we have to beg others to play with us and in return we let them win. Please take my words this is never the reality. Pakistan is not considered as safe venue anymore and I thing you will understand that its a different affair. We may not have as much sponsors as are there for India and Australlia, that too is a different thing yet we can play normal cricket, infact we are playing. We played with SA in the start of this year then WC then there was a series with Sri Lanka, then we played T20 WC, then we played a home series with SA now we are playing with India. Next year Australlia is scheduled to come to Pakistan (if security reasons do no become the cause for changing the venue). Pakistan doesn't have skippers for a big time. Inzimam is the only example but other countries are doing this. And basically in my view the captain is not intentionally made the scape goat by the board, infact this is done by awam, who, I wonder how forget everything after the next day and I think Astute is an example here. From heros to zeros in just one day nobody else but Pakistani masses can do it in one day. Recent example Inzimam ul Haq. Internal politics have done a lot damage to our cricket, as it is not the focus so I will not talk on this issue.
Now the only difference which is there I reckon is the match fixing or planning issue. I didn't deny that ever neither did you. In your case majority of the matches are fixed and in my case it therotically impossible for any sport to continue if a big majority of its matches are fixed. If it is the case it has to become a stage show like WWE. Even it is in the very interest of the fixers if they let normal cricket being played and intervene occasionally, I think you can get this point. As I tried to proof that this world is not heaven, and sports (not only cricket) at some places have been plagued by some corrupt people, in my view it never means that we stop watching or playing at all. And this fixing is a complex issue, I don't think the whole team is involved. Some players are bribed. Things can be proved by results and I beleive that the match vs Ireland was never a fixed one. Burning of homes is a series issue, if I am being offered bribe and I do have threats if I do the same would be risky for me then I don't think I need to go for that. I think the same is true bout you and players. A desperate man going to KSA with drugs is a bit different thing.
You didn't answer one thing if we beleive your theory shouldn't we be thankful to these fixers as Pakistani team had won more matches than they have lost. We have won WC once, we recently were the finalists in T20. Hates Off to fixers.
I didn't ask you to prove your statement by providing some evidence or documentary proof instead expected to have some logics from you, regretfully failed to some extent.
Waise why these fixers are working in the very interst of Australlian board for last ten years. Aur WI, Kiwis, England or India kia kasur he?
Thanks for staying at the thread and consedering my request. However, your post is denying that any thing can be proved by any logic.
But something at least positive is there, there had been a bit of consensus. I guess you are no more of the view that no body wants to play with us due to the deed of officials. And we have to beg others to play with us and in return we let them win. Please take my words this is never the reality. Pakistan is not considered as safe venue anymore and I thing you will understand that its a different affair. We may not have as much sponsors as are there for India and Australlia, that too is a different thing yet we can play normal cricket, infact we are playing. We played with SA in the start of this year then WC then there was a series with Sri Lanka, then we played T20 WC, then we played a home series with SA now we are playing with India. Next year Australlia is scheduled to come to Pakistan (if security reasons do no become the cause for changing the venue). Pakistan doesn't have skippers for a big time. Inzimam is the only example but other countries are doing this. And basically in my view the captain is not intentionally made the scape goat by the board, infact this is done by awam, who, I wonder how forget everything after the next day and I think Astute is an example here. From heros to zeros in just one day nobody else but Pakistani masses can do it in one day. Recent example Inzimam ul Haq. Internal politics have done a lot damage to our cricket, as it is not the focus so I will not talk on this issue.
Now the only difference which is there I reckon is the match fixing or planning issue. I didn't deny that ever neither did you. In your case majority of the matches are fixed and in my case it therotically impossible for any sport to continue if a big majority of its matches are fixed. If it is the case it has to become a stage show like WWE. Even it is in the very interest of the fixers if they let normal cricket being played and intervene occasionally, I think you can get this point. As I tried to proof that this world is not heaven, and sports (not only cricket) at some places have been plagued by some corrupt people, in my view it never means that we stop watching or playing at all. And this fixing is a complex issue, I don't think the whole team is involved. Some players are bribed. Things can be proved by results and I beleive that the match vs Ireland was never a fixed one. Burning of homes is a series issue, if I am being offered bribe and I do have threats if I do the same would be risky for me then I don't think I need to go for that. I think the same is true bout you and players. A desperate man going to KSA with drugs is a bit different thing.
You didn't answer one thing if we beleive your theory shouldn't we be thankful to these fixers as Pakistani team had won more matches than they have lost. We have won WC once, we recently were the finalists in T20. Hates Off to fixers.
I didn't ask you to prove your statement by providing some evidence or documentary proof instead expected to have some logics from you, regretfully failed to some extent.
Waise why these fixers are working in the very interst of Australlian board for last ten years. Aur WI, Kiwis, England or India kia kasur he?
