11-27-2007, 01:43 AM
In my opinion too, any debate or discussion which is not leading to any consensus or harmony of opinion should not be reasonlessly prolonged. I never said that it is only you who is preferring his beliefs over truth, this is something else that you, at least on this forum, are very rarely found agreeing to anyone else on any issues that are against your fundamental beliefs.
Before leaving this discussion I will like to conclude the things here according to my perception.
None of us is of the view that match fixing is not the case in international cricket. However, you are of the view that cricket and WWE both are pre-planned on similar lines. I mentioned that at least one difference is there that in cricket's case it is not disclosed to viewers, and I believe if this is the case then many of argument loose weightage. I am unable to find your remarks about it in the whole thread. I believe that fixing is there in cricket, it is also there in many other sports i.e. soccer. Further to this, my theory says that no sport which is totally preplanned can continue as a sport, if this is the situation it has to become a pre-planned stage presentation like WWE. I still wonder how after giving such illustrations one still is unable to understand the difference in WWE and cricket.
Regarding an other issue, at least I believe that so far it is not the case the PCB has to beg others to play with them and in return let other win. With thorough regrets, I have to say once again I didn't find anything concrete in its support produced by you. Pakistani recently is not playing much lesser matches as compared to other teams neither its loosing too much, I hope stats could help us at least on this issue. Security reasons I hope both of us can understand are a different issue.
Another thing as astute mentioned that he doesn't like to watch cricket as Pakistan is mostly the looser. I hope figures mentioned denies this statement altogether.
Kamran sb at stage you mentioned that you are not the one who is looking for any others support or who is afraid to continue any debate. I will say this doesn't require much of effort and perhaps the easiest thing to do. Making someone else to arrive to your conclusion requires a bit of effort. The situation I guess you intended to refer to is a similar endless debate that was there in firms section. At that time as both of us were unwilling to yield that was why I invited Mr. Pracs for his conclusion. That I believe was something courageous, and totally taken in a most negative manner by you.
I don't want to make things long, but one last point. Using words like in my opinion or I think is not only the case with you I and many other members use such disguised disclaimers.
Anyhow, at the end of this thread, I will take it as just another difference between us and differences I do take positively. So, no negative feeling, I am quite confident of this.
I think I need not to come here for any further clarification, however, if you think appropriate you should give your conclusion (as I did).
Cricket is fixed or not, or the policies of CA firms good or bad can't affect us.
Regards
Shoaib
Before leaving this discussion I will like to conclude the things here according to my perception.
None of us is of the view that match fixing is not the case in international cricket. However, you are of the view that cricket and WWE both are pre-planned on similar lines. I mentioned that at least one difference is there that in cricket's case it is not disclosed to viewers, and I believe if this is the case then many of argument loose weightage. I am unable to find your remarks about it in the whole thread. I believe that fixing is there in cricket, it is also there in many other sports i.e. soccer. Further to this, my theory says that no sport which is totally preplanned can continue as a sport, if this is the situation it has to become a pre-planned stage presentation like WWE. I still wonder how after giving such illustrations one still is unable to understand the difference in WWE and cricket.
Regarding an other issue, at least I believe that so far it is not the case the PCB has to beg others to play with them and in return let other win. With thorough regrets, I have to say once again I didn't find anything concrete in its support produced by you. Pakistani recently is not playing much lesser matches as compared to other teams neither its loosing too much, I hope stats could help us at least on this issue. Security reasons I hope both of us can understand are a different issue.
Another thing as astute mentioned that he doesn't like to watch cricket as Pakistan is mostly the looser. I hope figures mentioned denies this statement altogether.
Kamran sb at stage you mentioned that you are not the one who is looking for any others support or who is afraid to continue any debate. I will say this doesn't require much of effort and perhaps the easiest thing to do. Making someone else to arrive to your conclusion requires a bit of effort. The situation I guess you intended to refer to is a similar endless debate that was there in firms section. At that time as both of us were unwilling to yield that was why I invited Mr. Pracs for his conclusion. That I believe was something courageous, and totally taken in a most negative manner by you.
I don't want to make things long, but one last point. Using words like in my opinion or I think is not only the case with you I and many other members use such disguised disclaimers.
Anyhow, at the end of this thread, I will take it as just another difference between us and differences I do take positively. So, no negative feeling, I am quite confident of this.
I think I need not to come here for any further clarification, however, if you think appropriate you should give your conclusion (as I did).
Cricket is fixed or not, or the policies of CA firms good or bad can't affect us.
Regards
Shoaib
