ICAP humiliating itself

[kamranACA]

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<br />Dear Brother Kamran

I never said your statements conlict with others. Have I said this?. What I wanted to say that ICAEW had been interesting in Pakistan since 2004 (My idea) and it was ICAP which was not allowing ICAEW to enter in Pakistani market because of the fear that ICAEW will take over ICAP and that is what I have been saying in this particular thread. Moreover I said its ACCA which forced ICAP to allow ICAEW. Got my point. I am still saying this MOU will work in ACCA favour in Pakistan as if ICAP wanted to retain pakistani market then ICAP should first not let ACCA to introdeced itself in Pakistan 1995. If ICAP did it then ICAP should not give large number of exemptions to ACCA. If ICAP did give exemption to ACCA then it should not reduce ACCA exemption. Now game is out of ICAP control. But the main problem is ICAP still not working in right direction. Just a negative propaganda against anyone will not heLp ICAP. I know ICAP people will not understand, but you might get my point.

I seriouly think ICAP cannot do anything now, and there will be stage wHEN legal backing will not help ICAP like what is happening in Malaysian or Singaporian. Last post of the link I provided said if ICAEW will enter in Pakistani market then just ingore it. I do not think its right policy. Got my point dear.

I never used word failure for anyone its Kamran and in my above post I said in Kamran terms Prace is failure. I know ACCA history very well and I am proud of it. I know when ACCA was granted royal Charter and I also know when privy council allowed ACCA members to call themselves chartered accountant. Its not point when ACCA send money on R&D, the main point is ICAP has not sepend anything R&D yet. Kamran called about GHANA. Is ICAP recognised GHANA.

You said <font color="red">The 13 CAs you keep on harbouring about in practice outside of Pakistan are Pakistani CAs (who are partners)who practice in the Gulf as ICAP firms (training ICAP students and abiding by all bye-laws), please note that accountancy firms in the Gulf do not need to be associated with an Institute and only are to be registered with the relevant Ministry.</font id="red">

may I conclude from this ICAP people who are partners in firms aborad are only based un UAE where there is no local accountancy bodies and no other country. May be ICAP people cannot find jobs in UAE bause they cannot compete in open market that is why they established firms in UAE which is easy as comapred to finding jobs. And they are only 13 in number. Cheer Brother, do not take me wrong.

ICAI(india) is in better position than ICAP its ground reality. firts u need to accept reality, then you can tackle it. here ICAP people are not willing to accept reality.

Y ICAEW is so polite with ACCA these days. Obviously they are seeing ahead of 10 to 15 yrs. But If i mentioned this thing here ICAP people will not accept it as they cannot predict it, so leave it.

You said ACCA UK members are not graduate and ICAP almost members are graduate. Let analyses this statement.

ICAP student start ACA from ICAP after Inter and while doing ACA from ICAP do 2 yrs graduation. I accept this claim. I am accepting your claim as I do not trust Kamran.

Now in Pakistan, I suppose student join ACCA after Inter (so starting education of both are same). But ACCA inter student do not start ACCA straight away they first do CAT which is much better than two yrs B.com. After passing CAT and passing ACCA part 2 they complete B.Sc honours degree from oxford Brookes University (39 in Ranking in UK). This B.Sc is equivalent and infact it is itself 3 yrs bachelors degree which is recognised all over the world. So ACCA members hold CAT (which is better than 2 yrs B.com from Pakistani University and not recognised anywhere because of duration of 2 yrs) plus ACCA members hold 3 yrs internationally recognised bachelors degree from UK university.

Outside Pakistan students start ACCA straight away after A-Levels which is itself better than Pakistani Inter. Plus these students also completing International recognised bachelors degree from Oxford Brookes University.

Now you decide ACCA members are international level graduate or ICAP. I leave it to you to decide.

Depsite this I am not in favour of starting ACCA or Ca from ICAP after Inter.

Khalid
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Dears,

This insane comments on others mental capacity. The above post from this unsound mind is sufficient to show his mental presence and is quite elaborative of his aptitude.

He is replying to Pracs's post and does not know he is addressing it to me. What a failure insane he is?

I said he is always a great source of amusement!!!

All the comparison he has made of my posts is an effort of saying "don't go for prayer" by ignoring the whole text that "don,t go for prayer if you are not in senses". I don't mind his senseless comments.


I said one day he will start talking to invisibles with rusty hairs and nails and tatterd clothes. His post to Pracs but addressed to me is one such example.

This shows my analysis about him was totally correct.


Regards,



KAMRAN.