01-24-2009, 08:52 PM
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<br />And Northern Ireland is part of UK. ICAI(Ireland) is Northern Ireland qualification, Plz check
ICAI(Ireland) is member of CCAB(UK). Just to clear the point.
ICAI is also member of CCAB Ireland group. ICAI calls itself UK and Irealnd based qualification. check it with ICAI. The link you provided also shows ICAI office address in Belfast. Belfast is in Northern Ireland and Northern Ireland in part of UK.
Click on link below and read para number 2, you will find ICAI is Irish and UK based qualification.Please do not misguide people.
http//www.icai.ie/en/General/About-Us/Chartered-Accountancy/Becoming-a-CA/International-/
For another proof that ICAI is Ireland and UK based qualification click on link below and find out CCAB and CCAB-1.
http//www.icai.ie/en/General/About-Us/CCABCCAB-I/
I do not know why ICAP members are doing so.
Finally in UK no one says ICAEW is superior brand. It only ICAP claim in Pakistan.
Pracs are you saying there is more supply of accountant in Pakistan where there are only 4000 ICAP members, 3000 ICMA members and only 700 ACCA members. I do not know on what ground u made this claim that demand of accountant is less than supply.
I think ICAP members think that less in number is good.
and what do u mean by Pakistani based ACCA all ACCA are equal.
Khaid
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Khalid I stand corrected, ICAI is in NI and RoI, so there you go. Although personally most people that I have met from Northern Ireland were ICAEW, so my claim.
Pakistan based ACCA, is some one who is working in the Pakistani market (and probably trained there as well). ACCA (I meant some one who's trained and working in UK). There is no difference in the qualifications or status. My distinction comes so because a Pakistani ACCA will have better understanding and first hand knowledge of the Pakistani market. Likewise, an ACCA will have a better understanding and knowledge of the UK market.
7,700 qualified accountants, well atleast 1,000 ICAP members are overseas, then you need to deduct another couple of hundred for dual members given this for a population of 170 million is not much at all. But so is the state of our economy and official economy (almost half of our economy is unrecorded, untaxed etc.)So there are lesser opportunities in terms of CA's getting only premium positions. For instance, when I started my CA Foundation, it was not unheard of for ACAs to get job offers even before they time qualified ! by the time I qualified, not the case any more. As time goes on, ACAs (and other qualified accountants) will be performing at levels which was taken up by part qualified accountants only. Getting my drift, ofcourse as the Economy documents and we have more corporate businesses coming in, there are going to be more avenues and openings.
<br />And Northern Ireland is part of UK. ICAI(Ireland) is Northern Ireland qualification, Plz check
ICAI(Ireland) is member of CCAB(UK). Just to clear the point.
ICAI is also member of CCAB Ireland group. ICAI calls itself UK and Irealnd based qualification. check it with ICAI. The link you provided also shows ICAI office address in Belfast. Belfast is in Northern Ireland and Northern Ireland in part of UK.
Click on link below and read para number 2, you will find ICAI is Irish and UK based qualification.Please do not misguide people.
http//www.icai.ie/en/General/About-Us/Chartered-Accountancy/Becoming-a-CA/International-/
For another proof that ICAI is Ireland and UK based qualification click on link below and find out CCAB and CCAB-1.
http//www.icai.ie/en/General/About-Us/CCABCCAB-I/
I do not know why ICAP members are doing so.
Finally in UK no one says ICAEW is superior brand. It only ICAP claim in Pakistan.
Pracs are you saying there is more supply of accountant in Pakistan where there are only 4000 ICAP members, 3000 ICMA members and only 700 ACCA members. I do not know on what ground u made this claim that demand of accountant is less than supply.
I think ICAP members think that less in number is good.
and what do u mean by Pakistani based ACCA all ACCA are equal.
Khaid
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Khalid I stand corrected, ICAI is in NI and RoI, so there you go. Although personally most people that I have met from Northern Ireland were ICAEW, so my claim.
Pakistan based ACCA, is some one who is working in the Pakistani market (and probably trained there as well). ACCA (I meant some one who's trained and working in UK). There is no difference in the qualifications or status. My distinction comes so because a Pakistani ACCA will have better understanding and first hand knowledge of the Pakistani market. Likewise, an ACCA will have a better understanding and knowledge of the UK market.
7,700 qualified accountants, well atleast 1,000 ICAP members are overseas, then you need to deduct another couple of hundred for dual members given this for a population of 170 million is not much at all. But so is the state of our economy and official economy (almost half of our economy is unrecorded, untaxed etc.)So there are lesser opportunities in terms of CA's getting only premium positions. For instance, when I started my CA Foundation, it was not unheard of for ACAs to get job offers even before they time qualified ! by the time I qualified, not the case any more. As time goes on, ACAs (and other qualified accountants) will be performing at levels which was taken up by part qualified accountants only. Getting my drift, ofcourse as the Economy documents and we have more corporate businesses coming in, there are going to be more avenues and openings.
