02-25-2009, 12:46 AM
Rafay,
Teaching to students is academic and is not a professional achievement so it has no weightage when talking in practical terms. I used to teach some 4 to 5 years earlier to CA final and ACCA final students and that was also not for money.
Apart from the severe contradiction in your post, I know every sort of examples could be quoted. I also know that 100s of staff members are recruited by the firms but only a few reach the director or partner level. Some leave the firm in the midways and some are fired out. Even then to have a reasonable population for selecting a sample, why one should go for the ones who would eventually not be of any use. This was just a reply to your question in the fashion your post warranted.
I, however, know the firms where ACCAs are working at some managerial level. There was a time when two of my own assistant managers were also ACCA affiliates (also CA finalist).
However, the fact has not to change. If you feel you are upto it, you have to prove it at your own. It's weird to want, and long for assistance from the competitors. You will not see CAs doing so, even where, in your words, they come back in no times. {You forget that you also said such issues are not existant at other locations and are the norms of our society which is power oriented. People use to forget their own words I know}.
If you cannot make a place at your own, it would be better to leave. The ones who leave cannot make their place for centuries. They always keep on leaving. It is also a truth. It's a fact that for having a position you have to face, sacrifice, fight. No fights, no sacrifices, no wins. Mind it. The ones who plan to leave for the fear of some ruomours cannot survive. Keep this in mind; this is something beyond the academic thoughts. If you will carry similar thoughts you will be criticising all the 80 locations you are pointing out. I am telling you in advance. Don't expect from others that they will provide room for you. Survival of the fittest is something which you must not forget. Make a place at your own. Try your best. There will come bundles of obstacles, Face them and get the success. What else I can say. Leave the country if you plan so. People even leave their families. Who cares.
Again I tell you this is the answer which your post warranted. Otherwise there could have been many solutions which we can discuss.
Rabia
I meant what you deduced to some extent. ACCA is recognised and may have certain MRAs which we use to hear in loud voices. Let's see how many out of these 80 would offer a different situation than Pakistan. I already excluded UK and UAE. However, in UK a fresh ACCA is getting 18000 UK pounds per annum at this moment which is a poor salary level. Mind it, it is poor level. At UAE market is so ruined that there is no where to run. Let's see what remaining 78 offer.
ACCA projects it too much since it's extremely commercialized. You can go to Amir's (an ACCA) posts how people get attracted to it.
I only have to say that I am least affected. I always ask people to take the burden of their decisions.
Regards,
KAMRAN.
Teaching to students is academic and is not a professional achievement so it has no weightage when talking in practical terms. I used to teach some 4 to 5 years earlier to CA final and ACCA final students and that was also not for money.
Apart from the severe contradiction in your post, I know every sort of examples could be quoted. I also know that 100s of staff members are recruited by the firms but only a few reach the director or partner level. Some leave the firm in the midways and some are fired out. Even then to have a reasonable population for selecting a sample, why one should go for the ones who would eventually not be of any use. This was just a reply to your question in the fashion your post warranted.
I, however, know the firms where ACCAs are working at some managerial level. There was a time when two of my own assistant managers were also ACCA affiliates (also CA finalist).
However, the fact has not to change. If you feel you are upto it, you have to prove it at your own. It's weird to want, and long for assistance from the competitors. You will not see CAs doing so, even where, in your words, they come back in no times. {You forget that you also said such issues are not existant at other locations and are the norms of our society which is power oriented. People use to forget their own words I know}.
If you cannot make a place at your own, it would be better to leave. The ones who leave cannot make their place for centuries. They always keep on leaving. It is also a truth. It's a fact that for having a position you have to face, sacrifice, fight. No fights, no sacrifices, no wins. Mind it. The ones who plan to leave for the fear of some ruomours cannot survive. Keep this in mind; this is something beyond the academic thoughts. If you will carry similar thoughts you will be criticising all the 80 locations you are pointing out. I am telling you in advance. Don't expect from others that they will provide room for you. Survival of the fittest is something which you must not forget. Make a place at your own. Try your best. There will come bundles of obstacles, Face them and get the success. What else I can say. Leave the country if you plan so. People even leave their families. Who cares.
Again I tell you this is the answer which your post warranted. Otherwise there could have been many solutions which we can discuss.
Rabia
I meant what you deduced to some extent. ACCA is recognised and may have certain MRAs which we use to hear in loud voices. Let's see how many out of these 80 would offer a different situation than Pakistan. I already excluded UK and UAE. However, in UK a fresh ACCA is getting 18000 UK pounds per annum at this moment which is a poor salary level. Mind it, it is poor level. At UAE market is so ruined that there is no where to run. Let's see what remaining 78 offer.
ACCA projects it too much since it's extremely commercialized. You can go to Amir's (an ACCA) posts how people get attracted to it.
I only have to say that I am least affected. I always ask people to take the burden of their decisions.
Regards,
KAMRAN.
