03-13-2009, 07:33 PM
Dears,
It was a nice advice from mfahr.
I understand that being a doctor is to do a sacred job when compared to other qualifications provided some one takes it up that way. However, I also think that every job becomes sacred if it is done with commitment and honesty.
It is certainly too late to do CA after MBBS. However, one should not forget that MBBS has to take so long to become a specialized consultant, which is the ultimate goal or objective for any one. Simply being MBBS means nothing, I believe. Now what we have after MBBS is another story and people advising on this aspect must take it into account.
After MBBS one has following major choices
- Specialization from Pakistan i.e. FCPS (MCPS etc have no worth).
- Specialization from UK (either it is FRCS, MRCP, FRCP or whatever. certainly the diplomas don't work)
- specialization from USA (probably FAAP, FAAS, FICS, diplomat of American board and others like that which I may not be knowing in detail).
FCPS from Pakistan had been considered a good qualification for a long time. However, now competition is so stiff that it is losing its worth. The idea behind FCPS has been conceived from specializations of UK which are probably consisted of two major exams with some residency or experience of some teaching hospital. It is quite a short tenured specialization when compared to USA. If we look at some advanced, sophisticated hospitals of Pakistan e.g. AKUH, we will see they rarely depend upon FCPS doctors unless they have no choice. It may be a wrong conclusion by me. However, in public sector hospitals they are in abundance. If I am not wrong a person may take 3 to 5 years to become FCPS at a minimum after MBBS. Even then he is not considered a top level consultant. This is a delicate matter and may not be understandable for all readers.
FRCS/MRCP/FRCP/MRCOG etc from UK had been a great choice for Pakistani students whoever carried resources to visit or stay at UK. My brother did FRCS from UK in 1998 and at that time it was quite easier. Due to recent immigration and other bans, it is now almost impossible for a normal Pakistani MBBS to go for such qualifications. It is a fact and the doctors must be knowing what I am saying. Even if some one has all the resources and remains successful in getting admission at UK, it may take plenty of money and 3 to 5 years to accomplish the target. One must keep in mind that there are certain requirements of teaching hospital exposure after qualifying part one of such specializations.
USA's specializations are undoubtedly considered the best in the world. These are pretty much demanding when compared to others. I mean a long tenure has to be invested if some one wants to do it. There are quite difficult requirements as to visa and stay. To my understanding they are the best consultants over the globe and are the most highly paid. It may appear strange if I say they don't come to Pakistan since we cannot pay them their level. The people who know the difference consider FCPS trash when compared to USA specialists. After MBBS one has to clear MLE (a preliminary test) which is necessary to get visa and admission at USA. Then comes the specialization which probably takes 5 to 7 years along with plenty of resources and money backing. It's not strange if I say MLE alone may take more than a year or two.
Keeping in view the above, FCPS remains the easiest option. However there is a very strong competition and the results are not that good for all the contestants.
These all factors create issues in the minds of our upcoming doctors. I have so many friends in this field and I witnessed they are the most dissatisfied. Certainly CA of 4 years is an exercisable option to have a stable future, when compared to the others, even if it is unrelated. However, this is nothing other than the hard luck of this nation. We are causing our gems to divert their path merely because we don't have proper resources for them.
To my understanding the problem with doctor Ahsen is not illogical. If one feels contingencies involved in the career even if 4-8 years are invested after MBBS (that itself takes 5 to 6 years), then he will certainly be thinking on other options. I wonder what our government would be doing to address these issues.
We the people of other fields can only pray for such brothers. May God help them and give them a bright future. I however believe that if some one endeavor he finds the success.
Regards,
KAMRAN.
It was a nice advice from mfahr.
I understand that being a doctor is to do a sacred job when compared to other qualifications provided some one takes it up that way. However, I also think that every job becomes sacred if it is done with commitment and honesty.
It is certainly too late to do CA after MBBS. However, one should not forget that MBBS has to take so long to become a specialized consultant, which is the ultimate goal or objective for any one. Simply being MBBS means nothing, I believe. Now what we have after MBBS is another story and people advising on this aspect must take it into account.
After MBBS one has following major choices
- Specialization from Pakistan i.e. FCPS (MCPS etc have no worth).
- Specialization from UK (either it is FRCS, MRCP, FRCP or whatever. certainly the diplomas don't work)
- specialization from USA (probably FAAP, FAAS, FICS, diplomat of American board and others like that which I may not be knowing in detail).
FCPS from Pakistan had been considered a good qualification for a long time. However, now competition is so stiff that it is losing its worth. The idea behind FCPS has been conceived from specializations of UK which are probably consisted of two major exams with some residency or experience of some teaching hospital. It is quite a short tenured specialization when compared to USA. If we look at some advanced, sophisticated hospitals of Pakistan e.g. AKUH, we will see they rarely depend upon FCPS doctors unless they have no choice. It may be a wrong conclusion by me. However, in public sector hospitals they are in abundance. If I am not wrong a person may take 3 to 5 years to become FCPS at a minimum after MBBS. Even then he is not considered a top level consultant. This is a delicate matter and may not be understandable for all readers.
FRCS/MRCP/FRCP/MRCOG etc from UK had been a great choice for Pakistani students whoever carried resources to visit or stay at UK. My brother did FRCS from UK in 1998 and at that time it was quite easier. Due to recent immigration and other bans, it is now almost impossible for a normal Pakistani MBBS to go for such qualifications. It is a fact and the doctors must be knowing what I am saying. Even if some one has all the resources and remains successful in getting admission at UK, it may take plenty of money and 3 to 5 years to accomplish the target. One must keep in mind that there are certain requirements of teaching hospital exposure after qualifying part one of such specializations.
USA's specializations are undoubtedly considered the best in the world. These are pretty much demanding when compared to others. I mean a long tenure has to be invested if some one wants to do it. There are quite difficult requirements as to visa and stay. To my understanding they are the best consultants over the globe and are the most highly paid. It may appear strange if I say they don't come to Pakistan since we cannot pay them their level. The people who know the difference consider FCPS trash when compared to USA specialists. After MBBS one has to clear MLE (a preliminary test) which is necessary to get visa and admission at USA. Then comes the specialization which probably takes 5 to 7 years along with plenty of resources and money backing. It's not strange if I say MLE alone may take more than a year or two.
Keeping in view the above, FCPS remains the easiest option. However there is a very strong competition and the results are not that good for all the contestants.
These all factors create issues in the minds of our upcoming doctors. I have so many friends in this field and I witnessed they are the most dissatisfied. Certainly CA of 4 years is an exercisable option to have a stable future, when compared to the others, even if it is unrelated. However, this is nothing other than the hard luck of this nation. We are causing our gems to divert their path merely because we don't have proper resources for them.
To my understanding the problem with doctor Ahsen is not illogical. If one feels contingencies involved in the career even if 4-8 years are invested after MBBS (that itself takes 5 to 6 years), then he will certainly be thinking on other options. I wonder what our government would be doing to address these issues.
We the people of other fields can only pray for such brothers. May God help them and give them a bright future. I however believe that if some one endeavor he finds the success.
Regards,
KAMRAN.