08-16-2009, 07:29 AM
Glad to see your views and detail replyâ¦..
I think we were on the same boat, when ACCA launch in CAMS...
I am recalling your memories that ACCA not distribute certification on simple experience or MBA etc...,, They have some papers 14 papers and maximum exemption for only 5 papers on Masters.
Pease DONâT compare the ACCA with CPA,(Pak), as they formed in 1904.
Even ACCA have atleast accreditation and exemptions to ICAEW, on completion....means to sit for few papers of ICAEW...
We all donât want to pin down the ICPAP, but to drill downâ¦.â)
Atleast, as a forum member, looking forward some area of exemption from ICAP, which will make assurance that ICAP (CA - Pak) have link to accept in the Local market (means inside Pakistan)
Secondly, we will also looking for any across border bodyâs acceptance or any part exemption that shows CPA is the valid certificate, as they already completed there 18 years of journey.â¦..
Even I am in the queue in order to taken the qualification, but before we all make sure about that â<b>What we want and going to achieve, Itâs a same what we have an AIMâ.</b>
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, san" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by K.Ahmed</i>
<br />Dear All
Why are you comparing ICPAP with ICAP?? i think we should compare ICPAP with ACCA... Can someone tell me what is the status of ACCA in Pakistan??? are they allowed to conduct audit in Pakistan??...what is their legal status in Pakistan....what ACCA has is just reputation because of it's strong and highly updated course outline..which comes with time only..ACCAians can't legaly conduct audit in Pakistan as well...but still it's much more popular in Pakistan and worldwide....can someone tell me how many students of ACCA were there in 1994 in Pakistan... In 1998 i was student of ICAP and studying at CAMS....we had only one student of ACCA at CAMS...ACCA was having a one room office in Karachi..Mr. shariq mateen was answering the same questions....when i confirmed with my cousin in UK about ACCA....He said it's quiet popular here but legally ICAEW has more advantage....i am not sure about its future....
Same discussion we, as a students of ICAP, were having at that time to join ACCA or not....at that time its syllabus was much more easier than ICAP....we were suppose to clear 7 papers at a time in ICAP but in ACCA we can do it one by one....people use to make fun of ACCA that it's a one room body....and will runaway soon....ICAP will not let it stand for long....afterwards ICAP cancelled the exemption for ACCAians to give it tough time....
Then what happened guys????...ACCA made history in Pakistan....highest growth of ACCA students was recorded in Pakistan... ICAP had to change and ease it's syllabus due to ACCA....ACCA is still successfull even without having audit status in Pakistan....it's members are working on key positions in Pakistan and are very successfull....
GUYS wake up ! ICPAP is a potential body in Pakistan...there is a big demand of finance executives....why an international body like ACCA is needed in Pakistan??? because ICAP is not able to complete the market demand....ICAP concentrate on audit(only) in Pakistan(only)....what about finance industry???...MBA finance can still not compete in finance industry....We need this body???....I know ICPAP is giving complete exemption to professionals....which is a big question mark on their reliability...but i think it's a sensible move if followed with sincerety...why??? this is the only way to promote a society....professionals are already on key positions and have knowledge...by this way they are skipping a long process to create professionals and waiting for them to get recognized in the market...OK let me ask you ! How do you get impressed with ICAP???? when u see finance director of PSO is FCA....tomorrow if he also gets membership of ICPAP then we have a readymade CPA on a key position.....when ICPAP will have only 1,000 key professionals in Pakistan and worldwide....your views will definitely change !
My only demand with ICPAP is that they should continue to be sincere and honest....otherwise there is no problem with ICPAP....It's our responsibilty to promote our body...not to just pin-down it...In the end i want to ask all of you....IF UK CAN HAVE 3 AUDIT BODIES THEN WHY CAN'T WE HAVE IN PAKISTAN????
I am seeing so much discussions about ICPAP on accountancy forums and i beleive this the first successfull step.....
There is nothing to loose to join ICPAP...what we get is a strong chance to get recognized soon !
......
Do lakht hai jigar, phir bhi hai mojoodgi ka ahsaas
Qurbaniyoo ka shehr hai yeh, abhi tou khona kuch oor baqi hai
manzil pe puhunch ker khoosh hota hai jehel
yeh tou shroowaat hai, rasta abhi kuch oor baqi hai
sazishein hain buhut magar phir bhi hai khudi ka ahsaas
ab ho jo dard mahsoos lagta hai zindagi kuch oor baaqi hai
........
Sab Humwatnoo ko
AZADI MUBARAK !
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I think we were on the same boat, when ACCA launch in CAMS...
I am recalling your memories that ACCA not distribute certification on simple experience or MBA etc...,, They have some papers 14 papers and maximum exemption for only 5 papers on Masters.
Pease DONâT compare the ACCA with CPA,(Pak), as they formed in 1904.
Even ACCA have atleast accreditation and exemptions to ICAEW, on completion....means to sit for few papers of ICAEW...
We all donât want to pin down the ICPAP, but to drill downâ¦.â)
Atleast, as a forum member, looking forward some area of exemption from ICAP, which will make assurance that ICAP (CA - Pak) have link to accept in the Local market (means inside Pakistan)
Secondly, we will also looking for any across border bodyâs acceptance or any part exemption that shows CPA is the valid certificate, as they already completed there 18 years of journey.â¦..
Even I am in the queue in order to taken the qualification, but before we all make sure about that â<b>What we want and going to achieve, Itâs a same what we have an AIMâ.</b>
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, san" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by K.Ahmed</i>
<br />Dear All
Why are you comparing ICPAP with ICAP?? i think we should compare ICPAP with ACCA... Can someone tell me what is the status of ACCA in Pakistan??? are they allowed to conduct audit in Pakistan??...what is their legal status in Pakistan....what ACCA has is just reputation because of it's strong and highly updated course outline..which comes with time only..ACCAians can't legaly conduct audit in Pakistan as well...but still it's much more popular in Pakistan and worldwide....can someone tell me how many students of ACCA were there in 1994 in Pakistan... In 1998 i was student of ICAP and studying at CAMS....we had only one student of ACCA at CAMS...ACCA was having a one room office in Karachi..Mr. shariq mateen was answering the same questions....when i confirmed with my cousin in UK about ACCA....He said it's quiet popular here but legally ICAEW has more advantage....i am not sure about its future....
Same discussion we, as a students of ICAP, were having at that time to join ACCA or not....at that time its syllabus was much more easier than ICAP....we were suppose to clear 7 papers at a time in ICAP but in ACCA we can do it one by one....people use to make fun of ACCA that it's a one room body....and will runaway soon....ICAP will not let it stand for long....afterwards ICAP cancelled the exemption for ACCAians to give it tough time....
Then what happened guys????...ACCA made history in Pakistan....highest growth of ACCA students was recorded in Pakistan... ICAP had to change and ease it's syllabus due to ACCA....ACCA is still successfull even without having audit status in Pakistan....it's members are working on key positions in Pakistan and are very successfull....
GUYS wake up ! ICPAP is a potential body in Pakistan...there is a big demand of finance executives....why an international body like ACCA is needed in Pakistan??? because ICAP is not able to complete the market demand....ICAP concentrate on audit(only) in Pakistan(only)....what about finance industry???...MBA finance can still not compete in finance industry....We need this body???....I know ICPAP is giving complete exemption to professionals....which is a big question mark on their reliability...but i think it's a sensible move if followed with sincerety...why??? this is the only way to promote a society....professionals are already on key positions and have knowledge...by this way they are skipping a long process to create professionals and waiting for them to get recognized in the market...OK let me ask you ! How do you get impressed with ICAP???? when u see finance director of PSO is FCA....tomorrow if he also gets membership of ICPAP then we have a readymade CPA on a key position.....when ICPAP will have only 1,000 key professionals in Pakistan and worldwide....your views will definitely change !
My only demand with ICPAP is that they should continue to be sincere and honest....otherwise there is no problem with ICPAP....It's our responsibilty to promote our body...not to just pin-down it...In the end i want to ask all of you....IF UK CAN HAVE 3 AUDIT BODIES THEN WHY CAN'T WE HAVE IN PAKISTAN????
I am seeing so much discussions about ICPAP on accountancy forums and i beleive this the first successfull step.....
There is nothing to loose to join ICPAP...what we get is a strong chance to get recognized soon !
......
Do lakht hai jigar, phir bhi hai mojoodgi ka ahsaas
Qurbaniyoo ka shehr hai yeh, abhi tou khona kuch oor baqi hai
manzil pe puhunch ker khoosh hota hai jehel
yeh tou shroowaat hai, rasta abhi kuch oor baqi hai
sazishein hain buhut magar phir bhi hai khudi ka ahsaas
ab ho jo dard mahsoos lagta hai zindagi kuch oor baaqi hai
........
Sab Humwatnoo ko
AZADI MUBARAK !
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