12-23-2009, 10:22 PM
Dears
I have been defending the quality of our education at other threads where it was criticized by some fellows. However, the issue raised by maqszamnan is of significance. Whenever we will drill down anything to find reasons it will lead to certain conclusions. We have a lesser number of economists in our country which area I guess requires further attention and has depth for the quality people to come.
Nevertheless, simply MA (Eco) is not something to be over-discussed. It was mentioned for assessing the reason of why we don't have the economists which we require and for which reason we always depend upon others (who are bit irrelevant) and upon imported brains. This has been done over the decades. We certainly be producing some quality people but most of such quality is drained out due to foreign visa availability or mis-utilized by us due to our failed system. This is not happening only with economists. Rather this could be witnessed in every field. However, on this area we are really handicapped.
I agree that we are not here to provide a strict yardstick of what any qualification takes. The purpose of mentioning those 12-15 days was to explain how we largely perceive the things and act upon the plans. It is a fact. We don't study for knowledge purpose; I mean at least our majority, even if we ignore the rare cases, donât do it for the sake of knowledge. I donât allege others. This starts from me. There is a least research. We don't have opportunities for research in our country. I know most of our MAs are done in the same fashion. Itâs not merely MA (Eco), I agree. Others have fullest right to differ on this view but I wrote what I believe and what I can substantiate based upon my real life observation.
Our Ph.Ds (which we have a few) are working on 17 to 21 grades in public sector merely to find out how they can make best out of privileges attached with their jobs. Others are only giving lectures to students adding no value in the research field. Our institutes like NIBGE, Ayub Research, Agri University, Arid-Agri University, Veterinary University, TDAP and many more are only utilizing funds of the nation for no sake. They never contributed top to down despite of making big claims. We have seen some productivity from atomic laboratories although it took 3 to 4 decades of the nation in doing so. Still, what they can do and should have done is not on the scene. We are facing the worst energy crises which we could have managed by using those brains and billions of Rupees that nation invested over the years. But nothing has been done except for a limping Chashma Project, the contribution of which is too meager to add anything.
I have seen lots of instances where we and our culture made us to miss the train and did not properly utilize our brains. This is the situation of a nation that in fact faces a shortage of such persons. One of my late uncle was a Ph.D. (from USA) a scientist and doctor on whose name there are established departments in a famous University of Pakistan. He studied on scholarships in whole of his life even at USA. I wonder if we as a nation could have created any environment to utilize his abilities except for giving him good administrative posts and naming various departments, lobbies, libraries or laboratories to acknowledge his routine service. My first cousin is a Ph.D scientist who was among the team members who first thought and worked on a very aspiring and advanced technology in Pakistan that has been discussed internationally with his name as a main figure of the team. He has written a book that has been published and is studied at USA. He is a Canadian citizen. But what we are doing when he came to his country. Eventually the system put him on an administrative high ranked post where he is doing nothing but to do totally irrelevant things.
As said by Awais, the quality at other degrees and qualifications is also questionable and this is not the case merely with MA (Eco). I was not comparing Ph.D. Eco. with CAs or ICMAs by the way. I agree there is no comparability. Only the reasons of a positioning at our country were discussed.
We have twofold problem; firstly, we are lacking quality output and secondly we misuse or don't use their capabilities. Rather, we detrack them.
Notwithstanding above point of view, I am of strong belief that we should appreciate some one if he has over the time served his country even on the fronts where he had no obligation. This is a different issue.
Regards,
KAMRAN.
I have been defending the quality of our education at other threads where it was criticized by some fellows. However, the issue raised by maqszamnan is of significance. Whenever we will drill down anything to find reasons it will lead to certain conclusions. We have a lesser number of economists in our country which area I guess requires further attention and has depth for the quality people to come.
Nevertheless, simply MA (Eco) is not something to be over-discussed. It was mentioned for assessing the reason of why we don't have the economists which we require and for which reason we always depend upon others (who are bit irrelevant) and upon imported brains. This has been done over the decades. We certainly be producing some quality people but most of such quality is drained out due to foreign visa availability or mis-utilized by us due to our failed system. This is not happening only with economists. Rather this could be witnessed in every field. However, on this area we are really handicapped.
I agree that we are not here to provide a strict yardstick of what any qualification takes. The purpose of mentioning those 12-15 days was to explain how we largely perceive the things and act upon the plans. It is a fact. We don't study for knowledge purpose; I mean at least our majority, even if we ignore the rare cases, donât do it for the sake of knowledge. I donât allege others. This starts from me. There is a least research. We don't have opportunities for research in our country. I know most of our MAs are done in the same fashion. Itâs not merely MA (Eco), I agree. Others have fullest right to differ on this view but I wrote what I believe and what I can substantiate based upon my real life observation.
Our Ph.Ds (which we have a few) are working on 17 to 21 grades in public sector merely to find out how they can make best out of privileges attached with their jobs. Others are only giving lectures to students adding no value in the research field. Our institutes like NIBGE, Ayub Research, Agri University, Arid-Agri University, Veterinary University, TDAP and many more are only utilizing funds of the nation for no sake. They never contributed top to down despite of making big claims. We have seen some productivity from atomic laboratories although it took 3 to 4 decades of the nation in doing so. Still, what they can do and should have done is not on the scene. We are facing the worst energy crises which we could have managed by using those brains and billions of Rupees that nation invested over the years. But nothing has been done except for a limping Chashma Project, the contribution of which is too meager to add anything.
I have seen lots of instances where we and our culture made us to miss the train and did not properly utilize our brains. This is the situation of a nation that in fact faces a shortage of such persons. One of my late uncle was a Ph.D. (from USA) a scientist and doctor on whose name there are established departments in a famous University of Pakistan. He studied on scholarships in whole of his life even at USA. I wonder if we as a nation could have created any environment to utilize his abilities except for giving him good administrative posts and naming various departments, lobbies, libraries or laboratories to acknowledge his routine service. My first cousin is a Ph.D scientist who was among the team members who first thought and worked on a very aspiring and advanced technology in Pakistan that has been discussed internationally with his name as a main figure of the team. He has written a book that has been published and is studied at USA. He is a Canadian citizen. But what we are doing when he came to his country. Eventually the system put him on an administrative high ranked post where he is doing nothing but to do totally irrelevant things.
As said by Awais, the quality at other degrees and qualifications is also questionable and this is not the case merely with MA (Eco). I was not comparing Ph.D. Eco. with CAs or ICMAs by the way. I agree there is no comparability. Only the reasons of a positioning at our country were discussed.
We have twofold problem; firstly, we are lacking quality output and secondly we misuse or don't use their capabilities. Rather, we detrack them.
Notwithstanding above point of view, I am of strong belief that we should appreciate some one if he has over the time served his country even on the fronts where he had no obligation. This is a different issue.
Regards,
KAMRAN.
