03-03-2010, 05:09 PM
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<br />Dear
This misconception did exist two years back about jobs; just check out the posts at this forum in 2008 dates.
I lately told you that there is a difference in theoratical and practical perspective. No one could ever figure out how many such so-called jobs ever went to ACCAs where this designation was among the competitors. We have over 300-350 audit, consultancy, tax and other clients, and I knew of very very few clients (at one there is a part qualified ACCA, and on other there are probably one or two ACCAs (members)). In all cases working under CAs. Besides this "over 300", due to friendship circle, I may be knowing many more and rarely there is any ACCA on key position. Keep in mind "key positions"; and this is the situation where myth of "publishing of such designation for job openings" did exist for more than your so-called two years.
I simply invite you to carry out a survey of "key positions" across the industries (be it manufacturing or services), specially the bigger names and key players of the market and then come up with something to prove a point. If you find out some good examples then also check to whom they are reporting? This will refine your analysis further.
Certainly you don't "even" need to survey the key positions at "profession" in Pakistan.
So dear, ACCAs as a result of structure and design are dependent upon CAs in Pakistan; either in studies (since real majority of renowned and reliable teachers are ICAP members), or in training (none of ACCA firm is there to tarin), or in jobs (in almost all cases they are even interviewed and recruited by CAs), and in professional life (since they have to be reportable to them always in signifant cases).
It's tough to win a field where your teachers, your trainers, your prinicpals and mentors, your bosses and the ones who provide you a bit of room etc are all those to whom you dream to compete. Certainly ACCA is in Pak because CAs institute did not mind it; and this is because they are not a threat at all, rather are a cheap workforce to assist.
I did not want to write this since I don't now wish to affect peoples sentiments; but your continuing argument made me writing this. A lot more can be produced, if this remains unresolved. Otherwise, if any one is wise, he can drive results and make projections.
You are in very early stage; I advise you to learn a lot from the practical difficulties of life before drawing final conclusions so that the achieved results are in line with what you forecast.
I wish you best of luck and a prosperous and satisfied future.
Regards
Kamran.
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Dear Kamran bhai,
ICAP has been in existence for decades in Pakistan. Whichever qualification comes to into being first obviously has a hold on market due to its comparatively old age and market perception created thereof. Since it's older than ACCA in Pakistan, all of the high profile jobs(which require extensive experience) are taken by senior professionals who have the required experience and expertise for those jobs.
ACCA is still in the stage of recognition and growth in Pakistan. I hope you understood my point.
I expect a well-balanced and independent answer from professionals
<br />Dear
This misconception did exist two years back about jobs; just check out the posts at this forum in 2008 dates.
I lately told you that there is a difference in theoratical and practical perspective. No one could ever figure out how many such so-called jobs ever went to ACCAs where this designation was among the competitors. We have over 300-350 audit, consultancy, tax and other clients, and I knew of very very few clients (at one there is a part qualified ACCA, and on other there are probably one or two ACCAs (members)). In all cases working under CAs. Besides this "over 300", due to friendship circle, I may be knowing many more and rarely there is any ACCA on key position. Keep in mind "key positions"; and this is the situation where myth of "publishing of such designation for job openings" did exist for more than your so-called two years.
I simply invite you to carry out a survey of "key positions" across the industries (be it manufacturing or services), specially the bigger names and key players of the market and then come up with something to prove a point. If you find out some good examples then also check to whom they are reporting? This will refine your analysis further.
Certainly you don't "even" need to survey the key positions at "profession" in Pakistan.
So dear, ACCAs as a result of structure and design are dependent upon CAs in Pakistan; either in studies (since real majority of renowned and reliable teachers are ICAP members), or in training (none of ACCA firm is there to tarin), or in jobs (in almost all cases they are even interviewed and recruited by CAs), and in professional life (since they have to be reportable to them always in signifant cases).
It's tough to win a field where your teachers, your trainers, your prinicpals and mentors, your bosses and the ones who provide you a bit of room etc are all those to whom you dream to compete. Certainly ACCA is in Pak because CAs institute did not mind it; and this is because they are not a threat at all, rather are a cheap workforce to assist.
I did not want to write this since I don't now wish to affect peoples sentiments; but your continuing argument made me writing this. A lot more can be produced, if this remains unresolved. Otherwise, if any one is wise, he can drive results and make projections.
You are in very early stage; I advise you to learn a lot from the practical difficulties of life before drawing final conclusions so that the achieved results are in line with what you forecast.
I wish you best of luck and a prosperous and satisfied future.
Regards
Kamran.
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Dear Kamran bhai,
ICAP has been in existence for decades in Pakistan. Whichever qualification comes to into being first obviously has a hold on market due to its comparatively old age and market perception created thereof. Since it's older than ACCA in Pakistan, all of the high profile jobs(which require extensive experience) are taken by senior professionals who have the required experience and expertise for those jobs.
ACCA is still in the stage of recognition and growth in Pakistan. I hope you understood my point.
I expect a well-balanced and independent answer from professionals
