06-15-2010, 02:05 AM
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<br />Just sharing a sad thing. Recently one of my acquaintances, a CA Finalist got Canada skilled Visa. I know him .. he is a nice person. During a job interview in Canada, he presented his ICAP licence before interview penal. They saw it and then asked him to leave that Pakistani degree aside and show them some "international" degree. He had nothing like any international degree. These days he is in a real trouble. He has three options before him. First is salesman job in some store. second is pump boy at petrol pump. and third is taxi driver job.
Anyways ... reason may be like what our own TV channels are propagating about issue of fake degrees of parliamentarians. Foreigners are getting very bad impression of all it.
Secondly ... our educational institutes get all the fee charges from students only and only to give students some degree or certificate. As I know he is a nice person and CA Finalist. I also know that he knows absolutely nothing about computerized accounting. He does not even know which Accounting softwares are there in market, what they do, how to operate them or even what extra information can be sought from Computerized Accounting System.
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Dear Khuram
It would become a long debate if I go in details that I wanna avoid here. However, following are some of my views.
First regarding Canada and your CA friend. Basically, Canada is a country of immigrants from almost all regions and countries on globe. So, Canadian employers generally don't know about qualifications of each of those countries, but have trust on education from UK, or USA etc. So they ask for that if someone does not have Canadian education. They have most trust on Canadian degrees/ designations (even more than any of 1st world country's qualification like UK or USA), just because they know their own systems and universities. So this is a matter of knowing and trust for an employer who is taking interviews from 10 different candidates of 10 different countries and backgrounds. Therefore, if an immigrant would not get a professional job in his field then what is left. Blue collar jobs. Still, doing a blue collar job (in start) is not a bad thing in these countries. Almost everyone here MUST have done a blue collar job in any stage of his/her life, at-least during student life. Therefore, flipping burgers at McDonalds or filling gas at stations is quite a normal thing here. For example, even none of US president or Canadian PM (in recent history) can say that he has not worked in such jobs. Everyone does that. So, my friend, immigrants are not exceptional. Though I know (as Pakistani background) we don't pay respect to blue collar jobs in our countries.
So my friend, driving cab with Pakistani CA designation is not an unusual thing here. Even Canadian CA can work at gas station if he is out of job and in need of money for family and food. However, it would only be a transitionary period for both CAs (Pakistani or Canadian), which would be shorter for Canadian CA due to several advantages as compared to Pakistani CA who is just new in country and does not have many strengths like Canadian education/ experience. But don't worry, he would make his way with time and efforts.
Moreover, I have strong faith in Pakistani education system, universities, and designations like CA (ICAP) and CMA (ICMAP). On the basis of this education background, Pakistanis are working on big jobs all over the world, though they keep improving/ updating their education with new country's requirements. Not knowing accounting software is not a big deal, though its a big requirement and must be an obstacle in achieving accounting job here. Two or three month's extensive hands on training can be enough to work as user on mid-level accounting software. I have trust on your CA friend's background knowledge and skills in accounting, though I would only say that he did not complete his homework before immigrating here.
Perhaps, not having awareness about Canadian job requirements can be one reason for Pakistani immigrants to Canada. I started writing on this forum to introduce what Canadian employers are looking for. Perhaps, it could help them in proper planing.
Regards
<br />Just sharing a sad thing. Recently one of my acquaintances, a CA Finalist got Canada skilled Visa. I know him .. he is a nice person. During a job interview in Canada, he presented his ICAP licence before interview penal. They saw it and then asked him to leave that Pakistani degree aside and show them some "international" degree. He had nothing like any international degree. These days he is in a real trouble. He has three options before him. First is salesman job in some store. second is pump boy at petrol pump. and third is taxi driver job.
Anyways ... reason may be like what our own TV channels are propagating about issue of fake degrees of parliamentarians. Foreigners are getting very bad impression of all it.
Secondly ... our educational institutes get all the fee charges from students only and only to give students some degree or certificate. As I know he is a nice person and CA Finalist. I also know that he knows absolutely nothing about computerized accounting. He does not even know which Accounting softwares are there in market, what they do, how to operate them or even what extra information can be sought from Computerized Accounting System.
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Dear Khuram
It would become a long debate if I go in details that I wanna avoid here. However, following are some of my views.
First regarding Canada and your CA friend. Basically, Canada is a country of immigrants from almost all regions and countries on globe. So, Canadian employers generally don't know about qualifications of each of those countries, but have trust on education from UK, or USA etc. So they ask for that if someone does not have Canadian education. They have most trust on Canadian degrees/ designations (even more than any of 1st world country's qualification like UK or USA), just because they know their own systems and universities. So this is a matter of knowing and trust for an employer who is taking interviews from 10 different candidates of 10 different countries and backgrounds. Therefore, if an immigrant would not get a professional job in his field then what is left. Blue collar jobs. Still, doing a blue collar job (in start) is not a bad thing in these countries. Almost everyone here MUST have done a blue collar job in any stage of his/her life, at-least during student life. Therefore, flipping burgers at McDonalds or filling gas at stations is quite a normal thing here. For example, even none of US president or Canadian PM (in recent history) can say that he has not worked in such jobs. Everyone does that. So, my friend, immigrants are not exceptional. Though I know (as Pakistani background) we don't pay respect to blue collar jobs in our countries.
So my friend, driving cab with Pakistani CA designation is not an unusual thing here. Even Canadian CA can work at gas station if he is out of job and in need of money for family and food. However, it would only be a transitionary period for both CAs (Pakistani or Canadian), which would be shorter for Canadian CA due to several advantages as compared to Pakistani CA who is just new in country and does not have many strengths like Canadian education/ experience. But don't worry, he would make his way with time and efforts.
Moreover, I have strong faith in Pakistani education system, universities, and designations like CA (ICAP) and CMA (ICMAP). On the basis of this education background, Pakistanis are working on big jobs all over the world, though they keep improving/ updating their education with new country's requirements. Not knowing accounting software is not a big deal, though its a big requirement and must be an obstacle in achieving accounting job here. Two or three month's extensive hands on training can be enough to work as user on mid-level accounting software. I have trust on your CA friend's background knowledge and skills in accounting, though I would only say that he did not complete his homework before immigrating here.
Perhaps, not having awareness about Canadian job requirements can be one reason for Pakistani immigrants to Canada. I started writing on this forum to introduce what Canadian employers are looking for. Perhaps, it could help them in proper planing.
Regards
