10-13-2010, 04:13 PM
Dear Yasir,
In my confirmed view, you haven't gone through my earlier post properly or you have misinterpreted the same; had you gone through the same properly, thinking over the same thing would have been remote from your side.
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I think iss baray main ziada sochaa nahi chaiyay, Kuch maamlaat per xiada sochna Gumrahi ki taraf bhi lejata hay. Humain Allah or Rasool ki baaton per yakeen kar lena chaiyay, Logics main apna damagh khapai baghair.
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Dear, i understand k yeh Qismat Aur Taqdeer Wale Topic Per behas Nahi Karni Chahiye Aur Na Apni Aqal Lagani Chahiye Ke Aisa Hai To Wesa Kyun Nahi Isliye Ke Is Per Behas Karne Se Rasool SAWW ne Manah Farmaya Hai, Aur Jo Hamse Keh Diya Gaya Hai Hum Khamosi Se Us Per Iman Rakhein.
But we are not discussing here the interpretation of "kismat" within the context of "What-If Analysis".
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, san" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by yasir_live</i>
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Misaal k tor per ek banda agar Sharaab peenay ka Aadi hay tu iss ka kya matlab hay k Uss ki kismat main already yeh likh dia gya tha ??? zehan ko uljhanay k liay sawalaat tu bohat hain.
Allah knows best.
Regards.
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Undoubtedly, Allah knows the best.
Allah pak nay insan ko Ashraf-ul-Makhlooqat baniya hai aur usay Aql-e-Saleem say nawaza hai, aur yeh sifat janwaro may nahi hoti, insan ko Aql-e-Saleem dene ka maqsad yeh hai k wo achay aur buray rastay ko, within the context of Quran and Ahadees, ikhtiyar karay, to agar koi insan sharab peta hai, mehaz yeh soch kar k yeh us ki kismat may tha to wo nehaiyat he bewaquf hai, kyun k wo us Aql-e-Saleem ko, jo usay Allah pak nay atta ki hai, nazarandaz kar raha hai.
I earlier said that, ho ga wohi jo Allah pak nay Loh-e-Mehfooz pay likh diya hai lakin kyun k humay pata nahi hai k humaray naseeb may kia likha hai so your acts will always decide your destiny, you will get what is written in your destiny(by Allah), provided you put efforts to achieve the same. Although, Allah is a sole doer of everything, and may fulfill your wishes without your efforts.
(I would refer you to go through about the types of destiny i.e. <b>"Muallaq" and "Mubram"</b>)
Nonetheless, it is to be noted that Man is free to choose an action but they must bear the naturally ordained and pre-determined consequence of that action. If one puts one's finger in fire, one must suffer burns (because that is the taqdeer of that action). After that, one must turn to another action with a different taqdeer â like applying an ointment on the burn.
So, agar insan galat acts karay aur us ka galat nateeja niklay to us may yeh soch lena k yahee kismat may tha to yeh aik nehaiyat he bewaqufi hai..
Regards,
In my confirmed view, you haven't gone through my earlier post properly or you have misinterpreted the same; had you gone through the same properly, thinking over the same thing would have been remote from your side.
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I think iss baray main ziada sochaa nahi chaiyay, Kuch maamlaat per xiada sochna Gumrahi ki taraf bhi lejata hay. Humain Allah or Rasool ki baaton per yakeen kar lena chaiyay, Logics main apna damagh khapai baghair.
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Dear, i understand k yeh Qismat Aur Taqdeer Wale Topic Per behas Nahi Karni Chahiye Aur Na Apni Aqal Lagani Chahiye Ke Aisa Hai To Wesa Kyun Nahi Isliye Ke Is Per Behas Karne Se Rasool SAWW ne Manah Farmaya Hai, Aur Jo Hamse Keh Diya Gaya Hai Hum Khamosi Se Us Per Iman Rakhein.
But we are not discussing here the interpretation of "kismat" within the context of "What-If Analysis".
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, san" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by yasir_live</i>
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Misaal k tor per ek banda agar Sharaab peenay ka Aadi hay tu iss ka kya matlab hay k Uss ki kismat main already yeh likh dia gya tha ??? zehan ko uljhanay k liay sawalaat tu bohat hain.
Allah knows best.
Regards.
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Undoubtedly, Allah knows the best.
Allah pak nay insan ko Ashraf-ul-Makhlooqat baniya hai aur usay Aql-e-Saleem say nawaza hai, aur yeh sifat janwaro may nahi hoti, insan ko Aql-e-Saleem dene ka maqsad yeh hai k wo achay aur buray rastay ko, within the context of Quran and Ahadees, ikhtiyar karay, to agar koi insan sharab peta hai, mehaz yeh soch kar k yeh us ki kismat may tha to wo nehaiyat he bewaquf hai, kyun k wo us Aql-e-Saleem ko, jo usay Allah pak nay atta ki hai, nazarandaz kar raha hai.
I earlier said that, ho ga wohi jo Allah pak nay Loh-e-Mehfooz pay likh diya hai lakin kyun k humay pata nahi hai k humaray naseeb may kia likha hai so your acts will always decide your destiny, you will get what is written in your destiny(by Allah), provided you put efforts to achieve the same. Although, Allah is a sole doer of everything, and may fulfill your wishes without your efforts.
(I would refer you to go through about the types of destiny i.e. <b>"Muallaq" and "Mubram"</b>)
Nonetheless, it is to be noted that Man is free to choose an action but they must bear the naturally ordained and pre-determined consequence of that action. If one puts one's finger in fire, one must suffer burns (because that is the taqdeer of that action). After that, one must turn to another action with a different taqdeer â like applying an ointment on the burn.
So, agar insan galat acts karay aur us ka galat nateeja niklay to us may yeh soch lena k yahee kismat may tha to yeh aik nehaiyat he bewaqufi hai..
Regards,
