07-23-2007, 06:57 PM
Dear Miss Coollioness and Mr. Imran,
I was out of touch due to my two days week-end consumed by looking at the Sawan's amazing rain and immaturely playing with my guitar creating unknown tunes by the natural movement of my fingers in consonance with what the ears wanted to hear. Cigar also helped to kill the time. Hope you and all others would be fine and doing their best. By the way Sawan's rains are so beautiful and I love these two months i.e. Sawan and Bhaadon (sub-continental months).
Mr. Imran, I have full respect for your ideas and am not personally affected by any one's opinion. Truly speaking, I wish not any body to change his ideas due to me. It's just a discussion forum and sharing of ideas appears like having a cup of tea with friends in the corner of college's canteen. Though those days have gone, still I am attracted of thinking about my college days, where I always participated the chats and debates. I also won prizes for doing so, but losing the debate remained common feature of our discussions and never dishearted us.
Dear Coolioness,
I was already not feeling good at initiating the lal masjid issue on this thread and had already conveyed my sorry for it. Your analysis and conclusion on lal majsid issue is substantially agreeable for me except for the last two and half lines of the concerned paragraph where you declared / compared the terrorism of rigids with the "Khuda kee Lathi" and said that
"now its Govt's turn to compensate and pay the price for all the killings she has been doing througout the country. So just wait and see as you must have heard and read in books that "Khuda kee laathi be-awaaz hothi hai.""
Killings of very one without a reason is condemnable. Terrorism either done by government or rigids is condemnable. If the Bush affected non islamized government has done wrong in some wrong way then what would be the impact of same act from the so-called religious "fully respected" and "fully knowledged" persons. It is ridiculous if we support them to kill innocents who dont even have any direct linkage with lal masjid issue and who were by no means the decision makers. I also feel it to be an endeavor from such rigids to call USA to attack on Pakistan (may God abstain them). Such intentions have even been shown by Bush and who would be resposnible for such an incident, if it happens. The JAAHIL government or AALIM suicidal attackers? (Now dont say that these attackers are not from these so-called religious people). I dont take any decision, every one has to make his own opinion. Let me to close this topic on this thread.
Dear Coollioness,
I never felt any proud of any praise done by any brother or sister on this forum or anywhere else. I know I am the most humble creature of God. I have no doubt over it. In my perception I dont make the things complex. Still, if you feel it had been a complex way to present the issues, you can get more clarification from me on anything you dont digest. You may also comment on the pros and cons of complexity attributed to my discussion and I would like to ammend the presentation wherever would be practicable. Thanks for pointing out.
Dear Coollioness,
You highlighted the framework of human psychology by defining his/her social life cycle which enforces him/her to remain encapsulated within his own standard which develops unconciusly. In my view point the standard of one's life changes from time to time with the changes in his/her status and surrounding culture in a given society. So many among us are the persons who have developed and improved their status with the passage of time passing through various stages. Some also face a big change of standards, status, and culture over a very short period. This can happen and you can find so many examples for it. Mr. Qudrutllah Shahab was the most famous beaurocrate in Pakistani history. His childhood never matched his rest of (grown up) life style and status. There are millions of such examples. Look at celebrities, players, scientists and many more who are the best examples. Look at Ibraham Lincon and other such examples. These are not the rare cases.
Further, this is not compulsory that some Jhuggi (even middle class) resident has to move to some palace if he improves his status by means of hard work. Even the world has witnessed so many cases where this proved to be exactly a reverse situation for some people. Destruction of mughal regime is a big example where people went to lock ups from the luxorious lives of palaces. There are again uncountable examples. There was a time when my father died, I had only Rupees 15,000 in my pocket and the whole of life was ahead. I did not even knew what was the investment of my father and wherefrom I will have to meet the both ends. I was a student of CA who was not even part one qualified at that time. People were looking at us with the views that we would be destroyed. Now, after the passage of ten years, I have three Cars in my house with almost all luxuries of life and having a very attractive earning at the age of 31, which does not make me to proceed for UAE or UK.
Therefore, in my view, the standards have to change from time to time. Human life requires greatest extent of flexibility. As per my conclusion there is no fix standard for any one in his life span.
Due to this, I still stand on my idea that the thing which does not make our mind to love the ugly faces or out of our class (at a given point of time) badly represented, illiterate person has the physical attributes. It could be spontaneous like so many things are in our life but it cannot be called something having attributes of soul and not of body.
I also clarify that from physical attributes, I dont solely mean sexual attractions. There are always so many other considerations. However, as I said earlier, beauty is the biggest attraction.
I still make a difference between simple wild feelings and the real love attractions. Of course there is the biggest difference among these two situations and feelings. As far as involvement of arabic ladies with Pakistani or other drivers is concerened, it is most probably the wild feeling which is the basic instinct of humans and in my view it has nothing to do with LOVE.
I once again feel sorry for the incident happened to you due to some person of my gender and dont appreciate any one to decieve the others.
Regards,
Kamran.
I was out of touch due to my two days week-end consumed by looking at the Sawan's amazing rain and immaturely playing with my guitar creating unknown tunes by the natural movement of my fingers in consonance with what the ears wanted to hear. Cigar also helped to kill the time. Hope you and all others would be fine and doing their best. By the way Sawan's rains are so beautiful and I love these two months i.e. Sawan and Bhaadon (sub-continental months).
Mr. Imran, I have full respect for your ideas and am not personally affected by any one's opinion. Truly speaking, I wish not any body to change his ideas due to me. It's just a discussion forum and sharing of ideas appears like having a cup of tea with friends in the corner of college's canteen. Though those days have gone, still I am attracted of thinking about my college days, where I always participated the chats and debates. I also won prizes for doing so, but losing the debate remained common feature of our discussions and never dishearted us.
Dear Coolioness,
I was already not feeling good at initiating the lal masjid issue on this thread and had already conveyed my sorry for it. Your analysis and conclusion on lal majsid issue is substantially agreeable for me except for the last two and half lines of the concerned paragraph where you declared / compared the terrorism of rigids with the "Khuda kee Lathi" and said that
"now its Govt's turn to compensate and pay the price for all the killings she has been doing througout the country. So just wait and see as you must have heard and read in books that "Khuda kee laathi be-awaaz hothi hai.""
Killings of very one without a reason is condemnable. Terrorism either done by government or rigids is condemnable. If the Bush affected non islamized government has done wrong in some wrong way then what would be the impact of same act from the so-called religious "fully respected" and "fully knowledged" persons. It is ridiculous if we support them to kill innocents who dont even have any direct linkage with lal masjid issue and who were by no means the decision makers. I also feel it to be an endeavor from such rigids to call USA to attack on Pakistan (may God abstain them). Such intentions have even been shown by Bush and who would be resposnible for such an incident, if it happens. The JAAHIL government or AALIM suicidal attackers? (Now dont say that these attackers are not from these so-called religious people). I dont take any decision, every one has to make his own opinion. Let me to close this topic on this thread.
Dear Coollioness,
I never felt any proud of any praise done by any brother or sister on this forum or anywhere else. I know I am the most humble creature of God. I have no doubt over it. In my perception I dont make the things complex. Still, if you feel it had been a complex way to present the issues, you can get more clarification from me on anything you dont digest. You may also comment on the pros and cons of complexity attributed to my discussion and I would like to ammend the presentation wherever would be practicable. Thanks for pointing out.
Dear Coollioness,
You highlighted the framework of human psychology by defining his/her social life cycle which enforces him/her to remain encapsulated within his own standard which develops unconciusly. In my view point the standard of one's life changes from time to time with the changes in his/her status and surrounding culture in a given society. So many among us are the persons who have developed and improved their status with the passage of time passing through various stages. Some also face a big change of standards, status, and culture over a very short period. This can happen and you can find so many examples for it. Mr. Qudrutllah Shahab was the most famous beaurocrate in Pakistani history. His childhood never matched his rest of (grown up) life style and status. There are millions of such examples. Look at celebrities, players, scientists and many more who are the best examples. Look at Ibraham Lincon and other such examples. These are not the rare cases.
Further, this is not compulsory that some Jhuggi (even middle class) resident has to move to some palace if he improves his status by means of hard work. Even the world has witnessed so many cases where this proved to be exactly a reverse situation for some people. Destruction of mughal regime is a big example where people went to lock ups from the luxorious lives of palaces. There are again uncountable examples. There was a time when my father died, I had only Rupees 15,000 in my pocket and the whole of life was ahead. I did not even knew what was the investment of my father and wherefrom I will have to meet the both ends. I was a student of CA who was not even part one qualified at that time. People were looking at us with the views that we would be destroyed. Now, after the passage of ten years, I have three Cars in my house with almost all luxuries of life and having a very attractive earning at the age of 31, which does not make me to proceed for UAE or UK.
Therefore, in my view, the standards have to change from time to time. Human life requires greatest extent of flexibility. As per my conclusion there is no fix standard for any one in his life span.
Due to this, I still stand on my idea that the thing which does not make our mind to love the ugly faces or out of our class (at a given point of time) badly represented, illiterate person has the physical attributes. It could be spontaneous like so many things are in our life but it cannot be called something having attributes of soul and not of body.
I also clarify that from physical attributes, I dont solely mean sexual attractions. There are always so many other considerations. However, as I said earlier, beauty is the biggest attraction.
I still make a difference between simple wild feelings and the real love attractions. Of course there is the biggest difference among these two situations and feelings. As far as involvement of arabic ladies with Pakistani or other drivers is concerened, it is most probably the wild feeling which is the basic instinct of humans and in my view it has nothing to do with LOVE.
I once again feel sorry for the incident happened to you due to some person of my gender and dont appreciate any one to decieve the others.
Regards,
Kamran.
