behaviour of seniors in firm

[cute-doll]

hi sensible

thanks for ur reply
i will surely work . work karny k ilawa aur koi option bi to nai hai . but apni insult koi kitni dair tk sun sakta hai wo bi without any reason.really life is not so simple. even i cant focus on my studies because of my seniors.

[yasir_live]

Cute Doll, ho sakta hay tumharay Seniors ko tumsay LAGAO, or unsiat ho gai ho! kya pata is wajah say woh tum say xiada kam karatay ho, takay tum un ko un k samnay chalti phirti nazar ati raho. May b esa hosakta hay.

After all ek to tum Doll ho phir Cute bhi ho! Behrhaal Best of Luck.

[maqszaman]

Hi Cute Doll,

Your issue looks more psychological than anything else. If you have problem with more than one senior that means you should take the back of your seat in the night and think what you are doing wrong. Sometimes, we do things which are offending to others and we never realize them. It might be anything, your words, attitude or just even jealousy. Analyze your behavior very carefully.

It seems to me that you’re an over sensitive girl and you are taking them on your nerves. Remember that world out there is very brutal and careless. There is no room for “Cute Girls”. You just can’t buy sympathies and you have to be taught. I also feel that you are an introvert personality.

As I told you earlier, when they say you can’t do anything, just ask them to have a meeting. Don’t meet them immediately. Set an appointment for next day and discuss that what are their expectations and how you can meet them. Don’t be emotional in the meeting and be careful using words. Just do this twice and believe me you will feel the difference because now they know that if they would say something to you, they will have to have some conversation with you, which they would like to avoid in future.

As sensible advised you, pay attention to your studies and once you clear few exams you will be senior too. This is just a matter of time. One very important issue that you must take care of is your communication skills. Trust me that you can never pass the CA Exam unless you improve your English. You neither can understand the concepts of accounting and other business subjects without it, nor can demonstrate in the exam. Spare a few hours every day to overcome this shortcoming. Control your life and be positive and productive.

I have some Para-psychological cures for your seniors but I won’t advise at this stage. However, I would suggest you a book “How to influence people and win friends”. Its translation in Urdu was done by Kamal A. Rizwi “Methay Bool Main Jadoo Hay”. I read that book when I was in grade 10. That is a wonderful book and I would strong recommend you to go through that. I think the book is available at any book store (If they exist in Karachi anymore) and it is not expensive.

Keep me posted,

Regrads,

[sensible]

yeah dat book is still available in karachi,,go to the nearest book store
regards

[sensible]

and dear maqszaman

i marked ur words "i know very well how to deal with rocks"
wenever i feel any difficulty in dealing my managers or seniors,i'll like to take ur advices) i hope u never mind dat, m very poor in dealing with such kinda ppl(

regards

[maqszaman]

Hi Sensuble,

During my tenure of almost 20 years, I have dealt with hundreds of nerds and I also did some courses in Conflict Resolution. Unfortunately again, our students don't go for this kind a training. I wish you don't have to face this situation but you very welcome.

Regards,

[faisal_desperado]

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<br />Hi Cute_Doll,

Yasir is very right. Please treat this as an opportunity and capitalize it. Learn as more as you can from this opportunity. I remember that my first boss was an FCMA and nightmare for me but he taught me a lot. He was the worst person I have ever met in my life. I still remember him. Shouting, throwing files, disgracing people etc were his basic instincts. Now his own sons have left him alone in his very old age. I used it as an opportunity that how to work under stress, meet very tight deadlines, handle the bulls etc.

Apart from that it is unfortunately, our culture that we feel pride in disgracing other, boosting about ourselves. You would hear sentences like "Is ko kuchal do" "Is ko chooce lo", Is ko tension do" Is ko ragar do", "Dekha Kaysa zalil kiya, "Dekha saysa Kata" etc. I have heard these sentences a million times while I was working in Pakistan. Don’t be afraid of this kind a sentences. Face them like brave person and soon you will be amongst successful people. I will write in detail how to deal with “killing bosses”.

Wish you good luck.

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Dear Sir Maqsood,

Your posts depict your perspicacity over the issues you respond, we are thankful to you for your consecrations and devotions.

Best Regards,

Faisal.

[maqszaman]

Hi Faisal,

Thanks for appreciation.

Regards,

[DNQ]

Dear Doll

I have a totally different advice for u. I have spent 4 years in one of the big four firms and my expreince says that u need to tackle this thing from the start. I am sorry no offence but u guys r just trying to make the poor girl more tense by saying tht she has some phsycological problem. Its a very normal issue. Unfortunatly female seniors r usually those with such kind of attitude (I have no idea y). I suggest that you try n b a little more confident. If they insult u then u shud not misbehave. Just smile and politely giv a reply that insults them bak. This is how they will stop. Fact is fact. we can either act like angels or just b human. If u want to b a saint who is expecting tht sab kuch chup chap bardasht karnay say things will work out to u r wrong my friend. I would also like to emphasize the fact tht u shud not misbehave with them. Cox they can spoil ur image. Make sure u dont shout or use bad language. Just smile n convey ur msg. n dont feel insulted by their remarks.
As far as the work is concerned to i agree with the others tht work is work n in the start u shud happily accept watever work u get. Remember at this stage u r being judged on ur attitude towards work n not ur skills. When i was a junior i also vouched for my seniors. Its no big deal. Ur the one whose getting a chance to learn.
Last but not the least, try to chill n dont take things to ur head. Apne parhaye ko suffer na honay do. Seniors to change ho janay hain next job par. Aisay logon ko dil say nahe lagatay. Apna nuqsan mat karo larki! Concentrate on ur quality of work n parhaye. Rest is AAlL Well )

[DNQ]

Btw...y does my name say tht m an unregistered trainee S m qualified n theyv sent me back to level 1 P How do i change this??

[Schuaeb]

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<br />Btw...y does my name say tht m an unregistered trainee S m qualified n theyv sent me back to level 1 P How do i change this??
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Yeah sure that should be a matter for concern for you!! it'll get changed automatically with the number of your posts on the forum

[Dard]

Cute doll training mein seniors trainees ko zawaal se urooj pe le k jaate hain. They groom you from the lowest to the highest They treat you in a hard way to eliminate any ego and to make you patient. So that tomorrow when you will be a senior you will know what your juniors are facing

[Schuaeb]

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<br />Cute doll training mein seniors trainees ko zawaal se urooj pe le k jaate hain. They groom you from the lowest to the highest They treat you in a hard way to eliminate any ego and to make you patient. So that tomorrow when you will be a senior you will know what your juniors are facing
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Dard this does not mean to offend you but whatever you've said is absolutely rubbish. We are not getting training for military. Training should not be designed to eliminate one's ego, to the contrary it should help to build self-respect and confidence.

We are unfortunate that the environment in some of ICAP's training organizations is based on medieval times organizational philosophies that fits nowhere in modern corporate environment. Things have changed to a good extent and I anticipate this strict senior-junior culture will be eliminated soon. First name culture may be a good addition.

[sensible]

i totally agree with DNQ

[Dard]

Ego ruins careers. Firms give you tough time for a successful future. If you don't face hardships now, you may not be able to cope with them in the future. Confidence building is upto the trainee. But yeah, an excess of such behaviour/attitude may cause harm to the trainee