01-29-2008, 07:11 PM
Dears,
Shoaib,
You are right in saying that good and bad exist in every society and also in saying that history of muslims has so many times been much ruined than the current situation.
However, I raise one point out of ur statement. If good and bad exist in every society and every era then why we (specially as muslim) concentrate on a specific country. Why we talk about separate countries, so-called religious independence (this could be discussed at length), defined boundaries etc etc. I know for Sovereignty of a nation a country is necessary. But for Sovereignty of a religion like Islam boundaries donât have lots of meaning if we talk in individual capacity.
In my view a muslim in its individual capacity can live any where preserving its own character and character of next generation (if he work hard for it) and in that he/she could be proved much better for the cause of Islam than any other muslim who lives within the boundaries of a Sovereign muslim country.
When I discussed ugly face of Pakistani society I meant to clarify that good and bad is in existence every where and Pakistan is not an exception.
Now coming to sporty spice,
Dear, you said that our country made us capable for what we are. Just remember one thing. Countries never make their people. People always make their countries. This may be hard to digest but this is reality. Nothing of this statement abstains from feeling patriotism.
Further, you said you can list down the merits of my country. I love my country like you do. But I must say with certainty that merits will fall much much short of demerits, if we continue to debate. What my country gave me??? Letâs discuss very basic general issues
EDUCATION? No it was never free. Every student and his parents always pay for it and simple governmental studies are normally not up to the mark causing students to get tuitions or private schools. You can never ever compare student of LUMS and IBA with student of KU or other governmental institution. You can never compare atchisonians with a student of normal population. Every where money and reference is needed. Now if u say that LUMS and IBA and Atchison are also in Pakistan then I must say it cannot be considered a merit of a common man who cannot afford it.
HEALTH? Mashallah, have u ever visited governmental hospitals? Can any civil hospital compete a private hospital. Is medical aid free in Pakistan? Can any one get free of cost precious medicines for dangerous diseases? Can any one have a free check up from a consultant doctor with same attention as one can get on private clinics? How many innocents daily die in our hospitals due to lack of proper medication and facilities?
FOOD? Pakistan is one of the worst places in the world if we check how costly is the food availability (good hygienic food). Here in Pakistan rice are being sold at 75 Rupees per Kg and Wheat flour is from Rs 25 to Rs 45 depending upon how much the seller is empowered to loot the innocents. Does our poor eat same fruit which we export out? Can a person having Rs 4600 per month salary (minimum legal pay as per our governmental rules i.e. Roughly 35 to 40 British pounds per month or 75 to 80 USD per month) afford good food? What a merit is this?
UTILITIES? Again Mashallah. Pakistan is not supposed to get rid of its power crises until 2016. Pakistan severely lacks the availability of Gas resources. Gas import from Iran is always opposed by other countries. Our coal resources are still un-employed. Government announced Rs 4.83 as tariff rate for coal fired power projects recently. Would any body come to invest in far off areas (where even drinking water is not available) at this rate. I donât see it to happen as Sind Coal Authority perceives. Who will go to a place like "Thar" for a return of 10% to 15% on invested capital to establish coal fired projects? Should he not place his funds in portfolios of scripts, diversified mutual funds or variety of international banks for getting this rate with more diversification of involved risk factor against equal or better reward? Our water dams are now becoming worthless. We never tried to make new reservoirs. Our all prophecies and brags have died now. Pakistani nation is in severe crises of power, gas and water. Do you think it could be sorted out in near future. I donât think so. Our roads and infrastructure is worst in the world, and if some where roads are good (like highways and motorways), we the Pakistanis have to pay the cost of getting our vehicle on these roads. We pay in advance and then use the roads. There is nothing in the concept of "FALAHI RIYAASAT". Our utility prices are highest in the world and we always try to boost our prices for covering our losses and escalating costs which mainly escalate due to corruption. The subsidy on petrol (Rs 7 per liter) is just going to be rescinded, as Salman Shah has declared. This means a citizen of Pakistan is not to be benefited by its government.
SECURITY? We have been declared a place more dangerous than Afghanistan and Iraq and believe you me it is not untrue. Come out of your posh areas and see what a common citizen has to face. The causes of murders of our leaders have never been digged out. What treatment a common citizen can expect? Bombs, firings, fire out of properties and vehicles, collusions in educational institutes, robberies, murders, police encounters etc etc are at peak in Pakistan. Has any body any doubt?
So these are the basic things. Why to go for lesser important issues? Why not to discuss the above baseline problems?
"Apney loge".....Where are apney loge my friend?
Sporty spice, You live in some heavenly part of Pakistan I think.
Anyways, its good to read out comments of members on this issue. Its good if we donât close down our eyes like a pigeon do on seeing a cat.
Hope to see some further healthy discussion.
Regards,
Kamran.
