08-10-2006, 07:50 AM
Do I see a change of statement here ? surely by re drafting your statement you have changed the context all together.
Your first question is if it was based on the Two nation theory,.. YES it was.. you need to understand that due to the fact that Muslims in south asia were not only in majority along the east and west delta but also scattered in the Gangetic plan. Two nation theory meant that since Muslims are a different nation (from Hindus that you would agree well) they should atleast be able to form their 'own' government in the areas where they form majority ! The purpose was the birth of a muslim nation in South Asia,.
Your next question is closely connected to a huge amount of Muslims in India, well some of them chose to migrate to Pakistan (from the United provinces), almost all from East Punjab and almost none from South India. The answer here is Indus Land... there has never been a country in its natural form that included Indus Land and India.
The Two nation theory and Indus Land are complimentary concepts they go hand in hand. Indus Land has always been there atleast the last 5,000 years,.. and the two nation theory helped it to gain independence and break the artifical shakles with India.
Whether the creation of Pakistan was actually an outcome of 'UNTHAK MAHNAT' or was it just part of the Post war Labour Government's plan of de colonisation after 1945 is some thing for you to find out. Not every one who became part of the Pakistan movement or joined later or hijaked the bandwagon to Pakistan was sincere or as dedicated as others.
I know this for sure, millions migrated, hundreds of thousands migrated, still thousands dedicated their lives to this cause and thousands upon thousands spent their life times taking the country where it is today. Pakistan was inevitable, the combined power and will of Congress, Jamat ulmea Hind, British, the Unionists, the ANP... the trioka of Nehru, Lady and Lord Mountbatten, Abul Kalam Azad, the Charisma of Gandhi, Khan Ghaffar Ali Khan, Patel all combined could not avert it,.. Jinnah, Liaqat Ali Khan and few other people.. got Pakistan. Most Historians believe it was just Jinnah and fate that brought together Pakistan.
Shoaib, the thing is that 'WE DO NOT NEED TO JUSTIFY THE CREATION OF PAKISTAN', our country is based on an ideology....we are not talking about Saudi or Kuwait or Jordan (countries carved out post war) or Algeria or Libya that had there borders drawn up as straight line by colonists, or countries like Israel who have expansionist ideology. Pakistan is not manufactured its based on an ideology and a tradition.
I hope I have not steered away from your rational. I do not agree with you that positive discussion needs to concise, you do realise we are not drafting an accounting policy, its history we are talking about.!!
Your first question is if it was based on the Two nation theory,.. YES it was.. you need to understand that due to the fact that Muslims in south asia were not only in majority along the east and west delta but also scattered in the Gangetic plan. Two nation theory meant that since Muslims are a different nation (from Hindus that you would agree well) they should atleast be able to form their 'own' government in the areas where they form majority ! The purpose was the birth of a muslim nation in South Asia,.
Your next question is closely connected to a huge amount of Muslims in India, well some of them chose to migrate to Pakistan (from the United provinces), almost all from East Punjab and almost none from South India. The answer here is Indus Land... there has never been a country in its natural form that included Indus Land and India.
The Two nation theory and Indus Land are complimentary concepts they go hand in hand. Indus Land has always been there atleast the last 5,000 years,.. and the two nation theory helped it to gain independence and break the artifical shakles with India.
Whether the creation of Pakistan was actually an outcome of 'UNTHAK MAHNAT' or was it just part of the Post war Labour Government's plan of de colonisation after 1945 is some thing for you to find out. Not every one who became part of the Pakistan movement or joined later or hijaked the bandwagon to Pakistan was sincere or as dedicated as others.
I know this for sure, millions migrated, hundreds of thousands migrated, still thousands dedicated their lives to this cause and thousands upon thousands spent their life times taking the country where it is today. Pakistan was inevitable, the combined power and will of Congress, Jamat ulmea Hind, British, the Unionists, the ANP... the trioka of Nehru, Lady and Lord Mountbatten, Abul Kalam Azad, the Charisma of Gandhi, Khan Ghaffar Ali Khan, Patel all combined could not avert it,.. Jinnah, Liaqat Ali Khan and few other people.. got Pakistan. Most Historians believe it was just Jinnah and fate that brought together Pakistan.
Shoaib, the thing is that 'WE DO NOT NEED TO JUSTIFY THE CREATION OF PAKISTAN', our country is based on an ideology....we are not talking about Saudi or Kuwait or Jordan (countries carved out post war) or Algeria or Libya that had there borders drawn up as straight line by colonists, or countries like Israel who have expansionist ideology. Pakistan is not manufactured its based on an ideology and a tradition.
I hope I have not steered away from your rational. I do not agree with you that positive discussion needs to concise, you do realise we are not drafting an accounting policy, its history we are talking about.!!
