06-28-2010, 08:07 PM
Dear
I liked your posts by the way. Your questions are very basic and at so many times reflect a genuine feeling arising from the core of heart.
The behavior of your managers at some areas does not appear to be too professional honestly speaking, yet I believe this is one side's snap. The firms should compensate their students for their extra effort by some means, and these "some means" are defined in training regulations. There are no two opinions. So, here I am not opposing anything which you are complaining. I wonder why you are compelled to sit so late; and even if it is done, why you are not being compensated by some means. You should discuss this matter with the management without losing the level of respect and I hope it can serve a purpose.
My firm never did these things with us when we were students. This may be a lack of observation at our part or our extra loyalty with the firm that never let us to feel any deficiency pertaining to our rights. You can also say that might they have done something but our motive was not to concentrate on these areas. Rather we knew our objective and we concentrated more on that area instead of singing classical saga of rights and duties. We might be wrong but I am writing what has happened. This is not to disgrace you, rather is a food for thought.
You are wishing the stipend to be Rs. 10,000 per month so that it can cover inter-alia the travelling cost. I wonder if any of students at a good firm would be getting any materially lower figure than this 10,000 when their travelling bills are reimbursed with the stipend. Anyway, this is not the point which I wish to discuss. I oftenly say that complaining is easier than correcting ourselves. Your firm may not be right, your stipend may not be sufficient BUT if you qualify your E and F module in time, you will certainly get the increase which you are perceiving to be sufficient. I think you should pay more attention to achieve that target.
When I discussed increase in stipend from 1100 to 6500, it was to discuss inflationary increase. I mentioned that still it is a stipend. Personally I donât feel that this stipend should be converted to salary, yet people might have different views and I tend to honor every oneâs feeling. However, everyone who is module D can increase his stipend by his own effort. This is the area where students never pay any attention.
As far as MA Economics is concerned I think the action of your firm is correct. You cannot engage in such studies without the consent of your firm. To the top of all other things, to me such actions by CA students, convey a message that they are not sincere to their objective i.e. completing CA. You can differ to my view point but the thing I am telling you is a fact. Again you don't know what you are complaining about. When you will be doing MAs instead of your CA, how will you get your stipend increased? Again food for thought. I daily see the students who are engaged in CA studies and never get through CA exams, they keep on grousing about late sittings and stiff conditions; but at the same time engage their-selves in MAs and MBAs sort of things and qualify those exams regardless of same bottle-necks being faced. What is this? This is simply lack of interest for their core profession, absence of genuine effort and dishonesty with their own-selves and their families. Believe you me the one who is engaged in CA studies/training and is simultaneously doing some MA sort of thing, He is making a heartless and dishonest effort for his CA career that is his primary goal. Time will come when you will feel the meanings of my words.
You must not forget that choosing CA has not been imposed on you. You outrightly knew the associated hardships, difficulties and stiff training requirements. You also at the outset knew the stipend rates as well. You know you entered into a contract after knowing everything deeply. Where I did not argue against the points raised by you about your firmâs behavior (assuming them to be correct), I also cannot accept your version on this point being grounded on faulty basis. It is strange if you now start comparing Rs. 20,000 and grousing about the family financial issues. You should have evaluated this all before stepping in and should have taken a right decision at the outset. Did you not know what will you be getting while joining CA training?
If your family needed you to earn Rs 20,000 per month or Rs. 1,200 per days (as you compared) then why you joined this training at all. This all is the product of a confused thought. Our students donât know what life requires from them, what they wish to achieve, what is their own objective and target; and start complaining about life and about others. To me, this again shows lack of interest, and objectivity. Students usually are seen extremely worrying about everything that is spanning MERELY over a very short tenure of 3 years, but totally ignoring the goals which they need to achieve within these 3 years on which your life has to base.
Buddy, I donât mean to hurt your sentiments, but feel like making you to realize that the life is tough; economic realities are always there; what is going on at our homes is always known to us; and the people can vary in whatever they are putting in and taking out at their jobs; yet, survival at every corner is only for the fittest, and one has to undergo all problems, difficulties and issues to achieve his target. Therefore, you need to focus on your target and ignore the impediments and obstacles you are facing. We can change ourselves, if we fail to change the world.
Hoping you a best career.
Regards,
Kamran.
I liked your posts by the way. Your questions are very basic and at so many times reflect a genuine feeling arising from the core of heart.
The behavior of your managers at some areas does not appear to be too professional honestly speaking, yet I believe this is one side's snap. The firms should compensate their students for their extra effort by some means, and these "some means" are defined in training regulations. There are no two opinions. So, here I am not opposing anything which you are complaining. I wonder why you are compelled to sit so late; and even if it is done, why you are not being compensated by some means. You should discuss this matter with the management without losing the level of respect and I hope it can serve a purpose.
My firm never did these things with us when we were students. This may be a lack of observation at our part or our extra loyalty with the firm that never let us to feel any deficiency pertaining to our rights. You can also say that might they have done something but our motive was not to concentrate on these areas. Rather we knew our objective and we concentrated more on that area instead of singing classical saga of rights and duties. We might be wrong but I am writing what has happened. This is not to disgrace you, rather is a food for thought.
You are wishing the stipend to be Rs. 10,000 per month so that it can cover inter-alia the travelling cost. I wonder if any of students at a good firm would be getting any materially lower figure than this 10,000 when their travelling bills are reimbursed with the stipend. Anyway, this is not the point which I wish to discuss. I oftenly say that complaining is easier than correcting ourselves. Your firm may not be right, your stipend may not be sufficient BUT if you qualify your E and F module in time, you will certainly get the increase which you are perceiving to be sufficient. I think you should pay more attention to achieve that target.
When I discussed increase in stipend from 1100 to 6500, it was to discuss inflationary increase. I mentioned that still it is a stipend. Personally I donât feel that this stipend should be converted to salary, yet people might have different views and I tend to honor every oneâs feeling. However, everyone who is module D can increase his stipend by his own effort. This is the area where students never pay any attention.
As far as MA Economics is concerned I think the action of your firm is correct. You cannot engage in such studies without the consent of your firm. To the top of all other things, to me such actions by CA students, convey a message that they are not sincere to their objective i.e. completing CA. You can differ to my view point but the thing I am telling you is a fact. Again you don't know what you are complaining about. When you will be doing MAs instead of your CA, how will you get your stipend increased? Again food for thought. I daily see the students who are engaged in CA studies and never get through CA exams, they keep on grousing about late sittings and stiff conditions; but at the same time engage their-selves in MAs and MBAs sort of things and qualify those exams regardless of same bottle-necks being faced. What is this? This is simply lack of interest for their core profession, absence of genuine effort and dishonesty with their own-selves and their families. Believe you me the one who is engaged in CA studies/training and is simultaneously doing some MA sort of thing, He is making a heartless and dishonest effort for his CA career that is his primary goal. Time will come when you will feel the meanings of my words.
You must not forget that choosing CA has not been imposed on you. You outrightly knew the associated hardships, difficulties and stiff training requirements. You also at the outset knew the stipend rates as well. You know you entered into a contract after knowing everything deeply. Where I did not argue against the points raised by you about your firmâs behavior (assuming them to be correct), I also cannot accept your version on this point being grounded on faulty basis. It is strange if you now start comparing Rs. 20,000 and grousing about the family financial issues. You should have evaluated this all before stepping in and should have taken a right decision at the outset. Did you not know what will you be getting while joining CA training?
If your family needed you to earn Rs 20,000 per month or Rs. 1,200 per days (as you compared) then why you joined this training at all. This all is the product of a confused thought. Our students donât know what life requires from them, what they wish to achieve, what is their own objective and target; and start complaining about life and about others. To me, this again shows lack of interest, and objectivity. Students usually are seen extremely worrying about everything that is spanning MERELY over a very short tenure of 3 years, but totally ignoring the goals which they need to achieve within these 3 years on which your life has to base.
Buddy, I donât mean to hurt your sentiments, but feel like making you to realize that the life is tough; economic realities are always there; what is going on at our homes is always known to us; and the people can vary in whatever they are putting in and taking out at their jobs; yet, survival at every corner is only for the fittest, and one has to undergo all problems, difficulties and issues to achieve his target. Therefore, you need to focus on your target and ignore the impediments and obstacles you are facing. We can change ourselves, if we fail to change the world.
Hoping you a best career.
Regards,
Kamran.
