01-29-2010, 11:28 PM
Folks,
I don't know why this very thread has not been visited by me for many days but during this time so much has gone wrong.
I never felt that members like GreatKhans and Spectrum can go to such a limit. I cannot comment on Awais since his posts have been deleted. You all are Mashallah mature, seasoned, educated and nice persons as a whole; why you are doing this all calling in question qaums and castes? It's odd my friends. I know so much wrong could have happened in the past, but if we have to stick wwith that every one will come up with his grouses against each other and the debate will be nothing but a fight of the brothers living in same home.
You can discusss, debate and fight on any professional or general issue, but my request is not to engage in discussion against any one as a nation or sub-nation; be it Punjabi, Pathan, Mahajir, Baloch or Sindhi. Nice people are every where and bad is not specific to any one.
Although by caste I am not punjabi, yet I know and believe that first of all comes Pakistan. I also believe Punjabis are as good as any other citizens of Pakistan can be and there cannot be any thing bad than abusing our own citizens for whatever reasons it may be. All of Pakistan is mine and as such yours as well. If we will be abusing Sindh or Karachi or Islamabad or Punjab OR Balochistan or NWFP, we will not be doing anything but abusing to our ownselves. I request all of you to avoid it.
Every one, as a person has the faults, limitations, issues and positive and negative attributes. We are human beings and can commit every mistake. Awais is not an exception so not are you and me. Still, if the difference is upto one's self it does not create a major demerit of the discussion.
I don't know how can I ask any of you to undo the things which have happened. I don't also know how will you all respond to my request. Still, not to favor any one, I feel to post a request to Great Khan, Spectrum and also to Shehbaz that please delete all the discriminatory posts for the sake of this forum.
I know similar request was previously turned down by Shehbaz so no one else is also under any obligation to accept it. Still, if you all do it, alll the members will highly appreciate this step.
Spectrum, nothing will go wrong if you will do so. This will enhnace your stature and strengthen any of your valid stance. Asma has also posted similar request to you to whom you promised to delete this all stuff.
GreatKhans, I don't know either you are Pakhtoon or Mohajir, but whatever you are, you are a brother for all other Pakistanis, so it is not appropriate to call others as Kutta or pig. I know I cannot change the thought but still it is not a strange request if I ask you to please delete the posts containing hatered with Punjabis. If your men have been killed unjustifiably, it is not any one's fault in personal capacity. The leaders who make the decisions are those who even deceieve their own people on number of occasions. None of us can expect anything better from them; and remember such leaders are found in every nation, ethnic group and caste. Punjabis did not kill Akbar Bugti you all know, Lal Masjid's attack was not decided by a Punjabi, the Geeneral who offered his belt to General Arora Singh was not a Punjabi (by caste), the General who planned Kargil attack and then left it incomplete was not Punjabi. So, don't hate punjabis for all the illdoings that have been ddone in past. These leaders are from every area and every nation including Punjabis as well. I know you may not accept my clarification since it cannot undo the murders of your people. I, however, request you to forget the past and look forward to have some better days in the future to come.
I know the material posted here was a reaction and was not a pure hatered. So, still things can be improved and corrected. You all are brothers; and sons of same soil that is Pakistan. Don't please bifurcate it. This will kill all of us.
Please delete all posts containing incorrect remarks.
This is only a request.
Regards,
KAMRAN.
I don't know why this very thread has not been visited by me for many days but during this time so much has gone wrong.
I never felt that members like GreatKhans and Spectrum can go to such a limit. I cannot comment on Awais since his posts have been deleted. You all are Mashallah mature, seasoned, educated and nice persons as a whole; why you are doing this all calling in question qaums and castes? It's odd my friends. I know so much wrong could have happened in the past, but if we have to stick wwith that every one will come up with his grouses against each other and the debate will be nothing but a fight of the brothers living in same home.
You can discusss, debate and fight on any professional or general issue, but my request is not to engage in discussion against any one as a nation or sub-nation; be it Punjabi, Pathan, Mahajir, Baloch or Sindhi. Nice people are every where and bad is not specific to any one.
Although by caste I am not punjabi, yet I know and believe that first of all comes Pakistan. I also believe Punjabis are as good as any other citizens of Pakistan can be and there cannot be any thing bad than abusing our own citizens for whatever reasons it may be. All of Pakistan is mine and as such yours as well. If we will be abusing Sindh or Karachi or Islamabad or Punjab OR Balochistan or NWFP, we will not be doing anything but abusing to our ownselves. I request all of you to avoid it.
Every one, as a person has the faults, limitations, issues and positive and negative attributes. We are human beings and can commit every mistake. Awais is not an exception so not are you and me. Still, if the difference is upto one's self it does not create a major demerit of the discussion.
I don't know how can I ask any of you to undo the things which have happened. I don't also know how will you all respond to my request. Still, not to favor any one, I feel to post a request to Great Khan, Spectrum and also to Shehbaz that please delete all the discriminatory posts for the sake of this forum.
I know similar request was previously turned down by Shehbaz so no one else is also under any obligation to accept it. Still, if you all do it, alll the members will highly appreciate this step.
Spectrum, nothing will go wrong if you will do so. This will enhnace your stature and strengthen any of your valid stance. Asma has also posted similar request to you to whom you promised to delete this all stuff.
GreatKhans, I don't know either you are Pakhtoon or Mohajir, but whatever you are, you are a brother for all other Pakistanis, so it is not appropriate to call others as Kutta or pig. I know I cannot change the thought but still it is not a strange request if I ask you to please delete the posts containing hatered with Punjabis. If your men have been killed unjustifiably, it is not any one's fault in personal capacity. The leaders who make the decisions are those who even deceieve their own people on number of occasions. None of us can expect anything better from them; and remember such leaders are found in every nation, ethnic group and caste. Punjabis did not kill Akbar Bugti you all know, Lal Masjid's attack was not decided by a Punjabi, the Geeneral who offered his belt to General Arora Singh was not a Punjabi (by caste), the General who planned Kargil attack and then left it incomplete was not Punjabi. So, don't hate punjabis for all the illdoings that have been ddone in past. These leaders are from every area and every nation including Punjabis as well. I know you may not accept my clarification since it cannot undo the murders of your people. I, however, request you to forget the past and look forward to have some better days in the future to come.
I know the material posted here was a reaction and was not a pure hatered. So, still things can be improved and corrected. You all are brothers; and sons of same soil that is Pakistan. Don't please bifurcate it. This will kill all of us.
Please delete all posts containing incorrect remarks.
This is only a request.
Regards,
KAMRAN.
