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theahmer · 03-18-2004, 02:54 AM

AOA everyone,
Well guys I've been a member of this forum for sometime now. One thing I found first day is still one of the hotest topic and that is "CA or CMA".
Look guys I'm neither a cma nor a ca, but i do know something about both of these. When we compare two things, both must be towards same destiny. This is not the case with CMA and CA. Yeah i know that both r finance related, in both one study approx same courses but CMA leads towards MANAGEMENT ACCOUNTING" and CA is all about "AUDITING" (atleast main idea behind ICAP and ICMAP is this. So i don't think one must compare both. Yeah we must always compare ACMA from ICMAP and from CIMA, similar is the case for ICAP and say ICAEW.
If i'm mistaken do tell me otherwise share ur thoughts plz.
ALLAH HAFIZ

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sumaaan · 03-18-2004, 07:31 AM

You're correct, but there are a lot of fields that are common between ICMAP and ICAP qualifieds...

When forum members are comparing these both, they're basically content with the future prospects and job opportunities for both... Because ICMAP and ICAP are the only two main 'popular' bodies of Pakistan.

Edited by - sumaaan on Mar 18 2004 055513 AM

jbladeus · 03-18-2004, 09:38 AM

Ahmer, who told u that CA is 'only' auditing??!!

You need to learn a little bit (read quite a lot) more about this profession.

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sumaaan · 03-18-2004, 10:53 AM

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Ahmer, who told u that CA is 'only' auditing??!!

You need to learn a little bit (read quite a lot) more about this profession.

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True there... CA is about a lot of things... Risk Assessment, Financial Analysis, Auditing, to name a few.

Bowman · 03-18-2004, 01:36 PM

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CA is all about "AUDITING"
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Auditing is only one facet of Chartered Accountancy... there is much much more..

theahmer · 03-18-2004, 03:39 PM

Thanx guys for ur response,
Well, while posting the topic, i was expecting similar kind of response. Well let me confess i had a bit misunderstanding regarding CA, but u have to agree that Audit is one of the most core areas of a CA (tell me if i'm mistaken again).
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Yeah mr. guybrush u r right I've to learn Very much, as i said I'm neither a CMA nor a ca.
one thing more Look idea behind posting my current topic was to make us all realize that we people r comparing two things and each one is defending his side, so it leads to a continous discussion.
And yeah ICMAP is about Cost and Management accounting; atleast they state this on their Website.

Make efforts not excuses!

shehzad · 03-18-2004, 06:28 PM

" True there... CA is about a lot of things... Risk Assessment, Financial Analysis, Auditing, to name a few. "

Yes all of the the above , after the Liquidation phase is over or the proprietor has gone bonkers ....( read after the bera has been garaqed ) He He He )

And dont go far ...........ERRRRR hmmmmmm yes , it was Enron the oil giant which made the news ......

And yes in piyara Pakistan the situation is far more better ) , u can do anythin and get away with it ,

" Have five thousand , will get an Audited ( read "thappafied " )
Final Accounts " and that too of ur choice .....

Phew ! ! !

Bowman · 03-18-2004, 06:57 PM

A Question How much ACMA/FCMA are charging for "thappafying" of cost accounts?

Rs. 2,000...... I guess....

So your main frustation is the compensation factor then!!<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Sorry dear theahmer...... you started a nice thread, but Mr. Shehzad here just cant get enough, he just wants more and more and more <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>........ (addiction)

May be he is consuming more Pepsi these days

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sumaaan · 03-18-2004, 07:45 PM

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" True there... CA is about a lot of things... Risk Assessment, Financial Analysis, Auditing, to name a few. "

Yes all of the the above , after the Liquidation phase is over or the proprietor has gone bonkers ....( read after the bera has been garaqed ) He He He )

And dont go far ...........ERRRRR hmmmmmm yes , it was Enron the oil giant which made the news ......

And yes in piyara Pakistan the situation is far more better ) , u can do anythin and get away with it ,

" Have five thousand , will get an Audited ( read "thappafied " )
Final Accounts " and that too of ur choice .....

Phew ! ! !

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You know something, there seems to be a major problem with your attitude... No one here has anything against ICMAP... Everyone is entitled to their opinion and you just can't go on 'arguing' if someone has a different perception about things... Your posts are welcomed as long as they're polite and not taunting... So you can say anything as long as you're not being sarcastic to anyone on the forum especially our senior most members who are respectable ACAs...

If you have a different point of view than others, try to support your part of discussion professionally with facts and figures.

shehzad · 03-18-2004, 08:29 PM

Merci Mr . Sumaaan

Seems u are the saner of the lot )

Guess who started it all .

Point to ponder is , none of ur learned friends made it a point to answer my queries , but a lot of huffing and puffing , with red chilli stuffing . )

net_mania · 03-19-2004, 02:21 AM

hmmmm... touchy touchy everyone <img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>

sumaaan · 03-19-2004, 06:51 AM

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Merci Mr . Sumaaan

Seems u are the saner of the lot )

Guess who started it all .

Point to ponder is , none of ur learned friends made it a point to answer my queries , but a lot of huffing and puffing , with red chilli stuffing . )

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Thanks Mr Shehzad, I'll take that as a compliment...

If none of my 'learned friends' as you put it, could answer your questions, I guess you ICMAP qualifieds/students are obviously extremely intelligent and probably or rather obviously more than Chartered Accountants...

But as you yourself said, Chartered Accountants 'in pyara Pakistan..can do anythin and get away with it', I guess ICAP also gives them the license to be on this forum which unfortunately ICMAP doesn't give to its students... But still ofcourse, ICMAP qualifieds/students are more intelligent, sophisticated and have more wisdom than the Chartered Accountants who charge 5000 for an audit.

smraza · 03-19-2004, 02:23 PM

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SMR

Bowman · 03-19-2004, 02:53 PM

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Merci Mr . Sumaaan

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Hey Shehzad...... FYI..... Mr. Sumaaan is infact Ms. Sumaaan

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Seems u are the saner of the lot )

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Congrats Ms. Sumaaan.

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Guess who started it all .

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Go to the topic 'Info abt CA and CMA ( PLS reply)' again dear...... read your first posting with a cool head and then you will realise who started hitting in the first place......

jbladeus · 03-19-2004, 11:57 PM

some posters of this board seem to have a mighty inferiority complex, thats why they go looking for a fight from one topic to another. <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

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