11-29-2007, 04:37 AM
Dear,
I just could not help laughing on reading ur point of difference in WWE and Cricket as far as the pre-planning is considered.
To the common majority of muslims (also in any other religion), if you ask how u know the religion u r following is the correct one and how u know there is a God of whom we should have fear and how u know their would be a judgment day and how u know the Quran is God's book. You will get the most repeated reply, "becoz we have faith on it." )
I dont say that for a religion this is bad but in my view faith is the thing which makes the difference that an idol worshiper is not correct and the worshiper of God is correct (or even vice versa Naoozbillah). Becoz no one has seen the God with his eyes. For faith, it is imperative that one bases his faith without demanding much of proofs and without asking much of criticisng questions. Therefore we say that faith has the relationship with soul and not with mind. {this is only an example which may not 100% suit the situation but it can be materially co-related to ur issue}.
Now you declared that in WWE matches no one (like a movie) knows the end but he/she even knowing that every thing is pre-decided watchs the wwe matches. So u declared two things. First one that wwe is pre-decided or fixed like a movie. Second one that people even see it with interest while they know it is pre-decided/fixed, though they are not certain about the final outcome (just as they see a movie). I dont think I have let any of ur point out of this break up of sentences. If I have made such a blunder, please let me know?
Now if I apply same thing to cricket. I know (cant say about others) every match of (or even material number of matches) cricket is pre-decided/fixed. I (cant say about other people), even believing / knowing that these cricket matches are materially pre-planned/fixed (though not knowing final outcome) see these cricket matches with interest just as we normally see a movie. Then dear brother what makes the sense for you to differentiate between the two. Just your faith??????????? As I gave you an example in above lines about the faith.
This is ur sole feeling that people dont deem cricket to be pre-planned and people deem WWE as pre-planned. I know lots of people in my circle who dont deem WWE as pre-planned and also know so manys who deem cricket to be pre-planned. As far as my feeling is concerned, You know I make no differentiation between the two.
So, becoz u r a cricket lover, and for ur statistical record and audited calculations what I say is not tennable. therefore, you differentiate WWE and cricket (as far as their nature is concerned, as a sport), just becoz of ur belief or faith or prejudiced approach due to whatever reason.
I was just suspecious what the genie you were going to brought out of the bottle for differentiating WWE and Cricket (in their nature) but I dont feel gud about the quality of ur response and the basis you have made for proving WWE as a movie / drama and in contrast for proving cricket to be something different. Yaar u r a professional, please dont make such basis for declaring ur viewpoint to have more weightage and for decalring my viewpoint vague. Abb kiyaa kahoon, aakhir ba-qaul astute accountant tum bhi bhaai ho. I just cant praise the differentiation u made in the style of a kid.
So dear at the end, i also take such allegations on my shoulders as well. Yes, it could also be my belief or vague faith (based on my own analysis) that cricket is as preplanned/fixed as WWE is.
So it would be better that like me you also agree to the point that both of us dont have documentary evidences about what we both understand and deem and here on this thread this was only to share what we feel inside on the failure of our heros, due to whatever reasons, and not to conclude anything. As in the outset I said that like Astute ur problem is also to be lover of cricket and a person who cant bear to hear that Pakistan has done wrong. The difference may be of expressing one's feelings. Nothing else. You cant prove to the contrary!!!
Pakistan PaaindaBaad!!!
Regards,
Kamran.
I just could not help laughing on reading ur point of difference in WWE and Cricket as far as the pre-planning is considered.
To the common majority of muslims (also in any other religion), if you ask how u know the religion u r following is the correct one and how u know there is a God of whom we should have fear and how u know their would be a judgment day and how u know the Quran is God's book. You will get the most repeated reply, "becoz we have faith on it." )
I dont say that for a religion this is bad but in my view faith is the thing which makes the difference that an idol worshiper is not correct and the worshiper of God is correct (or even vice versa Naoozbillah). Becoz no one has seen the God with his eyes. For faith, it is imperative that one bases his faith without demanding much of proofs and without asking much of criticisng questions. Therefore we say that faith has the relationship with soul and not with mind. {this is only an example which may not 100% suit the situation but it can be materially co-related to ur issue}.
Now you declared that in WWE matches no one (like a movie) knows the end but he/she even knowing that every thing is pre-decided watchs the wwe matches. So u declared two things. First one that wwe is pre-decided or fixed like a movie. Second one that people even see it with interest while they know it is pre-decided/fixed, though they are not certain about the final outcome (just as they see a movie). I dont think I have let any of ur point out of this break up of sentences. If I have made such a blunder, please let me know?
Now if I apply same thing to cricket. I know (cant say about others) every match of (or even material number of matches) cricket is pre-decided/fixed. I (cant say about other people), even believing / knowing that these cricket matches are materially pre-planned/fixed (though not knowing final outcome) see these cricket matches with interest just as we normally see a movie. Then dear brother what makes the sense for you to differentiate between the two. Just your faith??????????? As I gave you an example in above lines about the faith.
This is ur sole feeling that people dont deem cricket to be pre-planned and people deem WWE as pre-planned. I know lots of people in my circle who dont deem WWE as pre-planned and also know so manys who deem cricket to be pre-planned. As far as my feeling is concerned, You know I make no differentiation between the two.
So, becoz u r a cricket lover, and for ur statistical record and audited calculations what I say is not tennable. therefore, you differentiate WWE and cricket (as far as their nature is concerned, as a sport), just becoz of ur belief or faith or prejudiced approach due to whatever reason.
I was just suspecious what the genie you were going to brought out of the bottle for differentiating WWE and Cricket (in their nature) but I dont feel gud about the quality of ur response and the basis you have made for proving WWE as a movie / drama and in contrast for proving cricket to be something different. Yaar u r a professional, please dont make such basis for declaring ur viewpoint to have more weightage and for decalring my viewpoint vague. Abb kiyaa kahoon, aakhir ba-qaul astute accountant tum bhi bhaai ho. I just cant praise the differentiation u made in the style of a kid.
So dear at the end, i also take such allegations on my shoulders as well. Yes, it could also be my belief or vague faith (based on my own analysis) that cricket is as preplanned/fixed as WWE is.
So it would be better that like me you also agree to the point that both of us dont have documentary evidences about what we both understand and deem and here on this thread this was only to share what we feel inside on the failure of our heros, due to whatever reasons, and not to conclude anything. As in the outset I said that like Astute ur problem is also to be lover of cricket and a person who cant bear to hear that Pakistan has done wrong. The difference may be of expressing one's feelings. Nothing else. You cant prove to the contrary!!!
Pakistan PaaindaBaad!!!
Regards,
Kamran.
