Need Honest Advice

sajjad_dar2000 · 09-17-2003, 09:27 PM

Currently I am studying in United Kingdom and I have done AAT (Association of Accounting Technician) and now I am in Part 2 of ACCA. I am planning to come back Pakistan after completion of my ACCA course. My friend from Rawalpindi studying in ACCA as well in Islamabad told me that after completion of ACCA you can get MBA degree as well.

Now I have changed my mind and after completion of ACCA Part 2 I would do âSearch and Analysis projectâ to get the Bsc (hon) degree form Oxford Brooks University. And then I want to do ACCA part 3 from Pakistan and in this way I can get MBA qualification as well (if my friend is right about ACCA and MBA), which mean two extra qualification in same time.

Some of my friend advice me to stay in UK until completion of my ACCA course because they consider UK qualified got bright future in Pakistan, but I am not agree with them and I say that if I want to work in Pakistan then I should complete my ACCA course from Pakistan.

Could you please Advice me regarding my above planning and about MBA

i gonna wait for replies from Smraza, Guybrush, Paki, Geo, Sumaaan, Asif and TheOne (if he is still on forum.

SAJJAD DAR

Edited by - sajjad_dar2000 on Sep 17 2003 43310 PM

Evolution · 09-17-2003, 09:54 PM

I know you didnt ask for my advice but what the heck i am gonna give it to you anyways. To tell u the truth there is not that big a market for MBA's now in Pakistan. The bubble has bursted. People saw it as a money making field a couple of decades ago but nowadays I've seen MBA's working for as low as Rs.5,000. The market for ACCA is also not that huge with many large companies not having a clue as to what it is (although ACCA has gained recognition amongst companies such as PSO, Unilever, ICI, Caltex and Orix). Therefore, it wont be much of a point for you having ACCA as well as MBA as the Pakistani market is still dominated by CA's. My advice to you would be to stay in England and after the completion of ACCA go for ICAEW. Moreover, the OBU degree in Applied Accounting is not even recognized here.

Best of Luck

smraza · 09-17-2003, 10:04 PM

Well, sajjad,
It doesnt matter you qualify your ACCA from Pakistan or from UK, as ACCA is same everywhere in the world, the team, who takes the exams from all over the world, is the representative of ACCA, you have to appear in same level of papers whether your are in UK or somewhere else.
Yes the difference comes from the exposure you get from UK (articleship), and in my opinion in pakistan you will get the better exposure if you are willing to stay in Pakistan in future.
In pakistan if you are in even in a small firm then you can get the exposure of a listed company, but in UK you will be getting the experience of Super stores, and the entities like that.
however you are well paid if you are doing articleship of ACCA from UK,
I dont know about the MBA (after ACCA) but if it is so, then its good to have 2 degrees at the same time.
and as your friend said UK qualifieds have bright future in Pakistan,
It is just due to mentality of the people that we are too much inspired from goraaas, What do u think ?? can you tell me the difference b/w Qualifying ACCA during stay at UK or being in Pakistan ???
and i agree with evolution, go for ICEAW after your ACCA
S M R

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sumaaan · 09-18-2003, 02:59 AM

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Currently I am studying in United Kingdom and I have done AAT (Association of Accounting Technician) and now I am in Part 2 of ACCA. I am planning to come back Pakistan after completion of my ACCA course. My friend from Rawalpindi studying in ACCA as well in Islamabad told me that after completion of ACCA you can get MBA degree as well.

Now I have changed my mind and after completion of ACCA Part 2 I would do âSearch and Analysis projectâ to get the Bsc (hon) degree form Oxford Brooks University. And then I want to do ACCA part 3 from Pakistan and in this way I can get MBA qualification as well (if my friend is right about ACCA and MBA), which mean two extra qualification in same time.

Some of my friend advice me to stay in UK until completion of my ACCA course because they consider UK qualified got bright future in Pakistan, but I am not agree with them and I say that if I want to work in Pakistan then I should complete my ACCA course from Pakistan.

Could you please Advice me regarding my above planning and about MBA

i gonna wait for replies from Smraza, Guybrush, Paki, Geo, Sumaaan, Asif and TheOne (if he is still on forum.

SAJJAD DAR

Edited by - sajjad_dar2000 on Sep 17 2003 43310 PM
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I came to London a couple of weeks earlier... I'm studying for ACCA, and I'm taking up four examinations...

What I've decided is that after my classes end here, I'll go back to Karachi and give my exams from there... The reason being the lack of time here for studies... There are a number of things we students have to look after in London which we cared less about back home...

From what I've examined, it takes almost double the time to do ACCA/ICAEW from UK than we can do from Pakistan... Coz back home we have flexible routines...

This is the way my career is poised as of now... I may come back to London for ICAEW later if I choose to do it and get consent from my parents... But I think its better than I complete ACCA as soon as possible so I'll go back to Karachi inshallah as soon as my classes end and appear for examinations from there.

Hence, my advice is, if you don't have time constraints, stay in UK and complete ACCA from here... But if you want to do it fast and quick, you should complete it from Pakistan.

smraza · 09-18-2003, 06:20 AM

Hey Sajjad,
if this is the situation then i will strongly advice you to come back as soon as possible, as its my personal experience that you cannot study if you have to live far away from your family. <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

S M R

Evolution · 09-18-2003, 03:41 PM

Mr.Raza, it looks like you have been in this profession longer than anyone else in this forum therefore, you would know better that in this profession there is no time for family or social life. Once u get in the only way out is either by qualifying or by quitting both of which take considerable amount of time. I personally feel that emotional needs should not be a factor.
As far as the madam in London is concerned, You have reached a city which many have tried reaching but failed. Dont waste this oppurtunity. Utilise it. No matter if it takes some time.

Evolution · 09-18-2003, 03:43 PM

By the way Sumaaan, which 4 papers are u studying at the moment?

smraza · 09-18-2003, 03:51 PM

Agreed evolution,
We have to kill our personal and social life when we enter into this profession, but u know if you go out from ur home at 7 in the morning and get back home at 12 or 1 in night, u have a mental satisfaction that u will spend night with your family, no tension of your other matters like clothes food etc etc. while living alone you have to manage all the things yourself, somepeople can manage or some not, and i got the feeling that Mr. Dar is unable to manage without his family, thats why i advised him to come back, <img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Regards

S M R

Evolution · 09-18-2003, 06:46 PM

Agreed but doesnt living alone teach one the hard facts of life, make him independent and he learns to stand on his own feet without the support of others. One must learm to survive in the most trying conditions.

sumaaan · 09-19-2003, 05:23 AM

The grass is always green on the other side... Or so it seems...

When I used to be back in Pakistan, I used to think how good life in London would be... My parents were totally against sending me here for studies... But now finally I realize its kinda tough here...

Everyone would think I'm crazy and homesick... But thats how things are here... I'm here, so is Sajjaad Dar and we both know coz we're going through this stage...

Life back home is best! If one wants to do Acca and you have ample time, then do it from UK... One who wants to do it as soon as possible, home sweet home!

smraza · 09-19-2003, 06:40 PM

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Agreed but doesnt living alone teach one the hard facts of life, make him independent and he learns to stand on his own feet without the support of others. One must learm to survive in the most trying conditions.
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Yes, Agreed Evolution, Further when u live alone then u actually come to know that what can you do yourself or in other words, "In tilooon main kitna Tael hai" <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

S M R

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shan · 09-20-2003, 03:59 AM

Sajjad Bahi

Aslam O Alaikam, i want to say something if you dont mind. first of all i would like to ask why you want to come back Pakistan you are in ideal city and people want to go there at any cost and you are planning to come back. If you were happy in Pakistan why then you left Pakistan?. and now my advice would be to stay there untill the compleation of your study. Secondly your are AAT qulified then you should go for ICAEW instead of ACCA as i know after the AAT Icaew takes 2 years why then your wasiting your time on ACCA.

Reg
Shan Butt

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sajjad_dar2000 · 09-20-2003, 10:00 PM

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Sajjad Bahi

Aslam O Alaikam, i want to say something if you dont mind. first of all i would like to ask why you want to come back Pakistan you are in ideal city and people want to go there at any cost and you are planning to come back. If you were happy in Pakistan why then you left Pakistan?. and now my advice would be to stay there untill the compleation of your study. Secondly your are AAT qulified then you should go for ICAEW instead of ACCA as i know after the AAT Icaew takes 2 years why then your wasiting your time on ACCA.

Reg
Shan Butt

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I would start form these words 'distance lends charm to the view' I think you not been in London thatâs way you called London 'ideal city' otherwise you say 'a mountain in labour and a mouse be result<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>'. And you ask why I want to come back in Pakistan...... because 'dry bread at home is better than roast meat-abroad. Why I left Pakistan...because my thinking were like you (London Is an ideal city).

You are right about icaew that it takes 2 years after AAT but actually when I started ACCA that time I was unaware that icaew takes 2 years, and got some other problems as well.

Any way Shan I am grateful for your advice.

Sajjad Dar

shan · 09-20-2003, 11:52 PM

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but still i shall say '''''stay there'''''......

meer · 09-21-2003, 03:02 AM

Hi Mr. Sajjad

Probably you dont even know me so do i

I have been living in U.A.E. for about 8 years, In these 8 years I lived 2 years alone in a desert (it is another long story), I can better feel your emotion and sentiments., I used to have the same homesickness in the beginning , but gradually I overcome my anxieties and emotions.

Being a Muslims and a Pakistani, my honest and humble advice for you is to stay over there, complete your ACCA , go for ICAEW if you can , get marry over there and grab a respectable job, than come here after 5 years as a British citizen, you will surely be distinct from a crowd of ACCAâs , and will definitely receive a red carpet treatment in multinationals if you plan to work in Pakistan

And Remember the hardwork you are putting into your study and job would definitely pay off.