03-31-2010, 01:28 AM
Dears
I doubt yeh shakhs paagal ho gaya hai. Again came with the words about ulema's authority (who in fact are not ulemas) but failed to prove his point by beating about. Rather, even failed to tell what is "ulema" or "aalim" in fact; how they can call theirselves as aalim as weoftenly see.
As far as Zaid Hamid's issue is concerned, tu agar koi paagal ho jaaey and due to unsound mind feel that others are his followers then it makes no difference. Mainay tu pehlay he bataya hai keh in "parrots" ke itni he auqaat hai. Iss say zayada kar bhi kia saktay hain.
Rahi baat qadiyanion ke tu woh tu credit hai Z. A. Bhutto ka, jo kisi ka baap bhi uss say nahi lay saktaa. Warna every man who knows this story knows very well where our so many Ulema were leading the whole endeavor to. I have already told the story. No need to dig out the burried bones again.
When you will post link without comments then its only a misdirecting destructive thing unless it provides both views.
Rahi baat Dr. Israr ke tu I am too clear that even he or his fellows don't have an authority to ask clarification; I just quoted their finding and attached importance to that finding; jis kay baawajood aik paagal aadmi kee "-----" band nai hui. (Deliberately not mentioned). I have been mentioning and am again mentioning that no aalim has such authority. Aur "aalim" bhi woh jo khud ko aalim kehtay hain. Aksariyet khud apnay naam kay saath "maulana" likhti hai. Aur woh aalimjin ke aksariyet Allah kay kalaam aur Islam kay naam par rozi talaash karti hai.
Certainly a few qualitative real Ulema are not being discussed.
Rahi baat Rushdi kee tu betaa jee how you dumb know that I am not aware what he wrote in his book? Simply like you don't regard our Govt as Islamic, I also don't regard the action of a Govt valid that is illegal, illogical, unjust, extra judicial and that indirectly is promoting the name of a Dajjaal like Rushdi (even if it is done by a Govt).
You can capture him, run a case against him, and penalize him provided tumhaari itni auqaat ho. Otherwise qatal ka fatwa khud muslims ka apnaa mazaaq hai. Baat ka jawab hai nahi aur qatal kar do. Kia zehan paya hai.
Aik sawal ka jawab he day do; uss aurat ko (yaa uss jaisay logon ko) muslims nay (fatah Makkah) kay baad kyun qatal nahi kia jo Prophet PBUH kay ooper dust ke tokri gira deti thee (Naoozbillah). Hazoor PBUH kyun uskaa paani bhartay rahay? Hinda ko qatal kyun nahi kia Fatah Makkah hotay hee? I know "parrots" ke samajh main nahi aaey ga?
"Parrots" does not even know that Rushdi's book has been replied effectively by some one muslim but unfortunately kisi Iran aur Saudi hakoomat nay uski projection nahi kee jitni honi chaahiyay thee. Rather due to dumb mind efforts they promoted the book of Rushdi. Just like a link has been posted in previous posts. Kisi "ulema" ko taufeeq nahi pari ho ge keh uss book ko bhi parh lain. This is what such so-called "ulema" means.
Paani main madhaani khud daal kay bethay hain saahib aur doosron ko talqeen kartay hain specific rehnay kee.
Hadeeson kee ta'daad kia word "parrots" kay against ginwaai hai? It's amazing effort. Bhayya ta'daad say kia hota hai. Tehqeeq bhi karo aur samjho bhi. I am sorry to say but just to remind that rattaa tu "perrots" bhi acha lagaatey hain.
Regards,
I doubt yeh shakhs paagal ho gaya hai. Again came with the words about ulema's authority (who in fact are not ulemas) but failed to prove his point by beating about. Rather, even failed to tell what is "ulema" or "aalim" in fact; how they can call theirselves as aalim as weoftenly see.
As far as Zaid Hamid's issue is concerned, tu agar koi paagal ho jaaey and due to unsound mind feel that others are his followers then it makes no difference. Mainay tu pehlay he bataya hai keh in "parrots" ke itni he auqaat hai. Iss say zayada kar bhi kia saktay hain.
Rahi baat qadiyanion ke tu woh tu credit hai Z. A. Bhutto ka, jo kisi ka baap bhi uss say nahi lay saktaa. Warna every man who knows this story knows very well where our so many Ulema were leading the whole endeavor to. I have already told the story. No need to dig out the burried bones again.
When you will post link without comments then its only a misdirecting destructive thing unless it provides both views.
Rahi baat Dr. Israr ke tu I am too clear that even he or his fellows don't have an authority to ask clarification; I just quoted their finding and attached importance to that finding; jis kay baawajood aik paagal aadmi kee "-----" band nai hui. (Deliberately not mentioned). I have been mentioning and am again mentioning that no aalim has such authority. Aur "aalim" bhi woh jo khud ko aalim kehtay hain. Aksariyet khud apnay naam kay saath "maulana" likhti hai. Aur woh aalimjin ke aksariyet Allah kay kalaam aur Islam kay naam par rozi talaash karti hai.
Certainly a few qualitative real Ulema are not being discussed.
Rahi baat Rushdi kee tu betaa jee how you dumb know that I am not aware what he wrote in his book? Simply like you don't regard our Govt as Islamic, I also don't regard the action of a Govt valid that is illegal, illogical, unjust, extra judicial and that indirectly is promoting the name of a Dajjaal like Rushdi (even if it is done by a Govt).
You can capture him, run a case against him, and penalize him provided tumhaari itni auqaat ho. Otherwise qatal ka fatwa khud muslims ka apnaa mazaaq hai. Baat ka jawab hai nahi aur qatal kar do. Kia zehan paya hai.
Aik sawal ka jawab he day do; uss aurat ko (yaa uss jaisay logon ko) muslims nay (fatah Makkah) kay baad kyun qatal nahi kia jo Prophet PBUH kay ooper dust ke tokri gira deti thee (Naoozbillah). Hazoor PBUH kyun uskaa paani bhartay rahay? Hinda ko qatal kyun nahi kia Fatah Makkah hotay hee? I know "parrots" ke samajh main nahi aaey ga?
"Parrots" does not even know that Rushdi's book has been replied effectively by some one muslim but unfortunately kisi Iran aur Saudi hakoomat nay uski projection nahi kee jitni honi chaahiyay thee. Rather due to dumb mind efforts they promoted the book of Rushdi. Just like a link has been posted in previous posts. Kisi "ulema" ko taufeeq nahi pari ho ge keh uss book ko bhi parh lain. This is what such so-called "ulema" means.
Paani main madhaani khud daal kay bethay hain saahib aur doosron ko talqeen kartay hain specific rehnay kee.
Hadeeson kee ta'daad kia word "parrots" kay against ginwaai hai? It's amazing effort. Bhayya ta'daad say kia hota hai. Tehqeeq bhi karo aur samjho bhi. I am sorry to say but just to remind that rattaa tu "perrots" bhi acha lagaatey hain.
Regards,
