03-31-2010, 11:09 PM
Dears
Kuch zehni mareez aisay hotay hain jinko kuch bhi samjha lo baat unki samajh main nahi aati. Yeh bhi un main say aik hai.
It's good to listen that now he is following Imam Khumeni Sahib and as such has declared his-self among Ahl-e-Tashi. Chalo kuch tu saaf hua. BTW, what will happen if some one will quote here some of his bak bak about Ahl-e-Tashi? Kiyaa pata aise bak bak kar chuka ho jaisay Zaid Hamid kay baaray main karta phir raha hai? Iss tarah kay banday ka kia pata aanay waalay waqat main kia bhonkay. GreatKhans has already proved that his bakwaas is not supported by his acts.
As far as Khumeni Sahib is concerned, I do have lot of respect and honor for lots of political reforms he brought in. He has done the things which majority of muslim countries are missing severely and this can be well noticed if we conduct a comparative study of Iran with other regional muslim countries. USA related policy is one example.
Yet he was not a Prophet (Naoozbillah) and disagreeing something with his school of thought is by no means an offense or disgrace of his view point. In the matter of Fatwa against Rushdi, I don't agree with this Fatwa and I don't have fear of a cheap maulvi who is trying to provoke our Ahl-e-Tashi brothers to speak against me.
I am sure that we should reply the non sense of kuffaar and anti Islam mentality with logic. Logic ka matlab salees urdu main Daleel hota hai. This poor talks about Daleel aur khud Daleel say aisay bhaagtaa hai jaisay kisi kay haath main pathar dekh kar aik khaas janwar.
Imam Khumeni sahib ke due respect (for being a great leader and thinker) aur unkay followers kay sentiments ka honor azeez hai; iss main koi behas nahi. Har muslim ke izzat ka aik muqaam hai. Khumeni sahib koi maulvi nahi thay; rather he was a great scholar, thinker, social reformer and philospher. Yahaan cheap maulvi unka naam lay kar apni khaal nahi bacha saktay. I believe they (Ahl-e-Tashi) are also pure muslims and at times may be better than us or others. Yahaan tu loge un par bhi fatway issue kar detay hain "online". Main kisi paagal shakhs ke tarah logon par Kuffar kay fatway nahi lagata. Yeh kaam iss forum par sirf aik aadmi he karta hai. Yet I differ with this particular Fatwa and this is not a sin. I have a different view point and different stand on this matter.
Khumeni sahib ke baat say differ karna Gunah hai? Agar hai tu phir saaray non-shia musims gunah-gaar ho gaey? Hai na? Phir yeh paagal aik din Shia bhaaiyon ko sab kay khilaaf provoke karey gaa. Yahi iss ke zehniyet hai and I am telling since inception keh aisay destructive loge yahi kuch kar saktay hain. That's why iss tarah kay logon aur maulviyon say panaah maangi hai mainay.
Kiyaa paagal aadmi hai yeh bhi. Khud apni auqaat explain karta rehta hai.
I believe such things harm Islam and have affected our picture internationally; who can disagree that regardless of Fatwa none of followers of Khumeni Sahib or others could have harmed Rushdi even a bit. Ham nay sirf uski auqaat aur oonchi kar dee hai qatal ka fatwa day kar warna woh tha kia? Ham uska aik baal nahi tore sakay last decades main aur bayaan baaziyaan kari jaa rahay hain. This is what I am trying to explain. Kuch karnay k qaabil hon tu might is right waali baat bhi theek ho shaayed. Ham tu khud bhikaari hain. Haan agar Daleel say baat kee jaati tu shaayed Rushdi ko jawab dia jaa sakta tha but none of muslim leaders and countries have done so. Iss ka nuqsaan kisko hua aur isskaa faidaa kisko hua, sab jaantay hain.
Baaqi rahi Zaid Hamid ke baat tu "again betaa jee" woh tu main tumko nahi chhoroon ga. Yahaan sab nay tumhaari bakwaas ko reject kiaa hai par tum itnay hat-dharam ho kay baaz he nahi aatay. Aik taraf kehtay ho keh kaafir kab kaha doosri taraf zore lagaai jaa rahey ho usko kaafir banaanay par. Aur jo tumhaari ganddi khopri main keel thonktaa hai har uss shakhs ko tum Zaid Hamid ka follower banaay jaa rahay ho yaa jaisay tum nay Greatkhan ko kaha, qaadiyani banaaey jaa rahay ho. Allah ka dar tumhaaray ander hai he nahi. Pata nahi kis say islam parhtay rahay ho tum.
I have already said one or two months back keh koi bhi ghalat baat karo gey tu jawaab milay gaa. Aur tumhara problem yeh hai keh tum 99 percent ghalat baat kartay ho. Aakhir aik "parrot" aur karey ga kia?? Jo ratta hua hai wohi bolay ga na. Damaagh tu apply karna nahi; baat daleel ke karta hai.
I don't advise parrots yet it is better to mend your ways. Kaminee aur zaleel harkaat chhore do aur aik achay bachay ban jaao.
Har kisi ko kaafir kehna chhore do, muslims kay darmyan fasaad karwana chhor do (kyun keh fasaad karnay waalon kay baaray main bara sakht hukam hai Quran main) aur tumhaari last post sirf Shia Bhaaiyon ko provoke karnay aur fasaad karnay kay liye likhi gai hai.
Jahaan tak baat hai tumhaaray sawaalon ke tu jaani Islamic Govt ko bhi maantaa hoon other than something illogical done by them, Ulema (jo keh chand aik hain) ko bhi maantaa hoon, aur asal main Quran aur Hadees ko maantaa hoon jo Allah aur Allah kay Rasool PBUH ka kalaam hain.
Ikhtelaaf ka haq hai mujhay aur jo baat ghalat lagti hai us par teray jaisay.... "ghatya maulvi".... kay darr say chup nahi kia kabhi. Sach baat aur shahaadat chhupana gunah-e-azeem hai.
Parrots par mera koi yaqeen nahi aur Allah kee Ayaat-e-Kareema baich kar chand sikkay kamaanay waalon kay baaray main jo likha gaya hai uss par eeman hai mera.
I believe apnay kiyay ka jawab har shakhs nay khud dena hai aur kisi parrot nay meri qabar main nahi sona. And I believe Allah has not imposed any compulsion on personalized beliefs. Sab say bihat sirf Allah he janta hai.
Rahi baat teri tu bhool ja keh I will give up or surrender in front of your destructive posts. I am here for you.
Regards,
Kuch zehni mareez aisay hotay hain jinko kuch bhi samjha lo baat unki samajh main nahi aati. Yeh bhi un main say aik hai.
It's good to listen that now he is following Imam Khumeni Sahib and as such has declared his-self among Ahl-e-Tashi. Chalo kuch tu saaf hua. BTW, what will happen if some one will quote here some of his bak bak about Ahl-e-Tashi? Kiyaa pata aise bak bak kar chuka ho jaisay Zaid Hamid kay baaray main karta phir raha hai? Iss tarah kay banday ka kia pata aanay waalay waqat main kia bhonkay. GreatKhans has already proved that his bakwaas is not supported by his acts.
As far as Khumeni Sahib is concerned, I do have lot of respect and honor for lots of political reforms he brought in. He has done the things which majority of muslim countries are missing severely and this can be well noticed if we conduct a comparative study of Iran with other regional muslim countries. USA related policy is one example.
Yet he was not a Prophet (Naoozbillah) and disagreeing something with his school of thought is by no means an offense or disgrace of his view point. In the matter of Fatwa against Rushdi, I don't agree with this Fatwa and I don't have fear of a cheap maulvi who is trying to provoke our Ahl-e-Tashi brothers to speak against me.
I am sure that we should reply the non sense of kuffaar and anti Islam mentality with logic. Logic ka matlab salees urdu main Daleel hota hai. This poor talks about Daleel aur khud Daleel say aisay bhaagtaa hai jaisay kisi kay haath main pathar dekh kar aik khaas janwar.
Imam Khumeni sahib ke due respect (for being a great leader and thinker) aur unkay followers kay sentiments ka honor azeez hai; iss main koi behas nahi. Har muslim ke izzat ka aik muqaam hai. Khumeni sahib koi maulvi nahi thay; rather he was a great scholar, thinker, social reformer and philospher. Yahaan cheap maulvi unka naam lay kar apni khaal nahi bacha saktay. I believe they (Ahl-e-Tashi) are also pure muslims and at times may be better than us or others. Yahaan tu loge un par bhi fatway issue kar detay hain "online". Main kisi paagal shakhs ke tarah logon par Kuffar kay fatway nahi lagata. Yeh kaam iss forum par sirf aik aadmi he karta hai. Yet I differ with this particular Fatwa and this is not a sin. I have a different view point and different stand on this matter.
Khumeni sahib ke baat say differ karna Gunah hai? Agar hai tu phir saaray non-shia musims gunah-gaar ho gaey? Hai na? Phir yeh paagal aik din Shia bhaaiyon ko sab kay khilaaf provoke karey gaa. Yahi iss ke zehniyet hai and I am telling since inception keh aisay destructive loge yahi kuch kar saktay hain. That's why iss tarah kay logon aur maulviyon say panaah maangi hai mainay.
Kiyaa paagal aadmi hai yeh bhi. Khud apni auqaat explain karta rehta hai.
I believe such things harm Islam and have affected our picture internationally; who can disagree that regardless of Fatwa none of followers of Khumeni Sahib or others could have harmed Rushdi even a bit. Ham nay sirf uski auqaat aur oonchi kar dee hai qatal ka fatwa day kar warna woh tha kia? Ham uska aik baal nahi tore sakay last decades main aur bayaan baaziyaan kari jaa rahay hain. This is what I am trying to explain. Kuch karnay k qaabil hon tu might is right waali baat bhi theek ho shaayed. Ham tu khud bhikaari hain. Haan agar Daleel say baat kee jaati tu shaayed Rushdi ko jawab dia jaa sakta tha but none of muslim leaders and countries have done so. Iss ka nuqsaan kisko hua aur isskaa faidaa kisko hua, sab jaantay hain.
Baaqi rahi Zaid Hamid ke baat tu "again betaa jee" woh tu main tumko nahi chhoroon ga. Yahaan sab nay tumhaari bakwaas ko reject kiaa hai par tum itnay hat-dharam ho kay baaz he nahi aatay. Aik taraf kehtay ho keh kaafir kab kaha doosri taraf zore lagaai jaa rahey ho usko kaafir banaanay par. Aur jo tumhaari ganddi khopri main keel thonktaa hai har uss shakhs ko tum Zaid Hamid ka follower banaay jaa rahay ho yaa jaisay tum nay Greatkhan ko kaha, qaadiyani banaaey jaa rahay ho. Allah ka dar tumhaaray ander hai he nahi. Pata nahi kis say islam parhtay rahay ho tum.
I have already said one or two months back keh koi bhi ghalat baat karo gey tu jawaab milay gaa. Aur tumhara problem yeh hai keh tum 99 percent ghalat baat kartay ho. Aakhir aik "parrot" aur karey ga kia?? Jo ratta hua hai wohi bolay ga na. Damaagh tu apply karna nahi; baat daleel ke karta hai.
I don't advise parrots yet it is better to mend your ways. Kaminee aur zaleel harkaat chhore do aur aik achay bachay ban jaao.
Har kisi ko kaafir kehna chhore do, muslims kay darmyan fasaad karwana chhor do (kyun keh fasaad karnay waalon kay baaray main bara sakht hukam hai Quran main) aur tumhaari last post sirf Shia Bhaaiyon ko provoke karnay aur fasaad karnay kay liye likhi gai hai.
Jahaan tak baat hai tumhaaray sawaalon ke tu jaani Islamic Govt ko bhi maantaa hoon other than something illogical done by them, Ulema (jo keh chand aik hain) ko bhi maantaa hoon, aur asal main Quran aur Hadees ko maantaa hoon jo Allah aur Allah kay Rasool PBUH ka kalaam hain.
Ikhtelaaf ka haq hai mujhay aur jo baat ghalat lagti hai us par teray jaisay.... "ghatya maulvi".... kay darr say chup nahi kia kabhi. Sach baat aur shahaadat chhupana gunah-e-azeem hai.
Parrots par mera koi yaqeen nahi aur Allah kee Ayaat-e-Kareema baich kar chand sikkay kamaanay waalon kay baaray main jo likha gaya hai uss par eeman hai mera.
I believe apnay kiyay ka jawab har shakhs nay khud dena hai aur kisi parrot nay meri qabar main nahi sona. And I believe Allah has not imposed any compulsion on personalized beliefs. Sab say bihat sirf Allah he janta hai.
Rahi baat teri tu bhool ja keh I will give up or surrender in front of your destructive posts. I am here for you.
Regards,
