04-01-2010, 11:33 AM
Good points raised but I know will not affect a particular addressee.
Shani, as far as Jamshed Dasti II is concerned, this is the term I used to explain the approach of parrots. They search nothing, never apply mind, never find facts and come on to roads for jalao gheraao. Jamshed Dasti did similar thing when he opposed Women Rights bill in NA. Media asked him that he is opposing this bill, has he in fact read it thoroughly. He replied NO. Yahi haalat kuch parrots ke hai.
Ab iss bachay ka problem yeh hai keh he always clicks on others' terms and logics and straight a way start copying it. He is a copy cat you know. Har thread par kuch na kuch kisi na kisi ko copy karta hai and this has so many times been pointed out by me. So usage of term Jamshed Dasti is not his own thought; rather it is a copy cat harkat aur iss tarah ke harkaat say iss kee "parrot-ness" aur magnify ho jaati hai. You will soon see him finding some words similar to PARROTS or even COPYCAT. That's what he is upto.
Kisi ka naam lay lo bhaga bhaga search engine say information collect karta hai aur forum pay aa keh bara teer maarnay ke koshish karta hai. He just forgets keh naqal kay liyey bhi aqal darkaar hai. Aur woh uss main hoti tu 32 saal ka honay kay ba-wajood apna CMA he na qualify kar leta. I hope people must be remembering his personal particulars posted by GreatKhans.
Torontoboy has made a valid point that qadiyanis, Rushdi and Tasleema etc every one is know by people at large. Aakhir har baar inka naam lay lay kar kia saabit karna hai ham nay?? Jahaan ham tabah hain wohaan kabhi kisi Parrot ko fikar kartay dekha hai kisi nay?? Never! Ho he nahi sakta!! Bhaai jo garhay murday hain unkay baaray main buhat kuch kaha ja chuka hai, ab kaun see nai research karni hai. I agree with Toronotboy that yeh harkaat sirf unka rate bharhaa rahi hain. Aisay garhay murday jin ko dunya bhoolnay lagti hai, jin kaa naam mitnay lagtaa hai, woheen koi Parrot uth-ta hai aur koi aisee harkat kartaa hai keh woh garhay murday phir zinda honay lagtay hain. Aur iss baat ko parrots apnay eemaan ke taazgee samajhtay hain.
Believe you me Rushdi ko Robinhood banaanay aur well known karnay main sirf maulvi bhaaiyon ka haath hai. Warna woh tha he kia? Aik mamooli disputed bhatka hua writer? Aaj qadyaani 100plus countries main paaon jama kay bethay hain, kyun? Missions, websites aur dish channels khol chukay hain. Billions kay funds hain unkay paas; kyun? Aisaa kyun hua?? Solely yaaron kee apni harkaton ke wajah say. Aur ham jawan samjhtay hain keh ham nay pata nahi kaun see "nath" daal dee hai. (Yeh Nath issi parrot ka lafaz hai). Mujhay tu koi Nath nazar nahi aati. Out of Pakistan they are still muslims; even in Muslim countries. Aur Pakistan main bhi woh utnay he nazar aatey hain. Qauid-e-Azam kay wazeer-e-kharja say lay kar Ayub Khan kay wazeer-e-Khazana tak aur Parvez Musharraf kay Tariq Azeez say lay kar Zardari sahib kay Sohail Ahmed tak (generally reported names). Har jaga par. Taareekh kay har warqay par. Ab zyada samjhaao gey aur mazeed aaeena dekhaao gey tu kahen gay tum unki taraf-daari kar rahay ho ya jaisay GreatKhans ko keh bhi diyaa tha keh tum unkay follower ho. Khuda ke panaah. Yeh haal hai hamaari efforts ka aur soch ka aur Ulema kehlaanay ka bara shauq hai. Yousaf Kazzab ke he misaal lay lo. Mar khap gaya, loge bhool gaey, aadhay loge uska naam bhi nahi jaantay; par nahi!!! Hamaara maulvi (aur iss jaisay kuch aur) phir say uski bones nikaal laaey hain. Ussay zinda-o-javed Karnay ke koshish kar rahay hain. Kar lo baat. Ussko jab tak koi hero (Naoozbillah) na bana lain gey, aur jab tak aadhi dunya ko uskaa taa'ruf na kara dein gey tab tak araam thora he aaey gaa. Aur jab "mukammal araam" aa jaaey ga tab kahein gey yeh Ulema ka kaarnama hai.
Yaar kuch tu reham karo iss qaum par; kahin tu aqal aur patience ko use karo. Kuch tu proper planning say karo. Bheek saari dunya say maangtay ho aur baatein fitno ke kartay ho. Ham as a qaum sab say bara fitna hain. Iss baat ka kyun ehsaas nahi. New years par sharab aisay chalti hai jaisay europe ho, zanakaar sarkon par khulay aam ghoomtee hain, aksariyat bey-eeman aur dishonest hai, rishwat / corruption aam hai aur uskay bina aik kaam bhi nahi ho sakta, taleem aur ilaaj ab ghareeb aadmi ke bass ke baat he nahi rahay (aik 6000Rs salary wala aadmi apnay bachay ka Hepatitus B ka 16000Rs ka lab test kaisay karwa sakta hai; I personally saw such cases at Aga Khan Hospital), fuel/gas/power hamaaray paas hai he nahi iss liyey bheek kee aadat chah kar bhi nahi khatam kar saktay, paani hamara khatam ho gaya aur sab including so-called "Ulema" soey rahay, har dushman hamaaray mulak kay ander ghussa hua hai aur ham koi plan nahi rakhtay to deal with them, hamaari koi policy hamaari apni nahi, hamara koi faisla hamara apna nahi, kirdaar hamara aisa hai keh Iblees bhi sharma jaaey yaha loge qabron say dead bodies nikaal kar unkay saath bhi rape kar detay hain, zinda women ko qabron main ham dafan kar detay hain aur koi poochhta tak nahi aur baat khatam ho jati hai, kaari kar kay maar do kisi bhi aurat ko aur sab khush baash rehta hai, bhaai bhaai ka dushman hai baloch punjabi kay khoon ka dushman hai aur punjabi baloch ka, pathan Muhajir ka aur muhajir pathan ka (examples only) so on and so forth. Al-gharz ham sab main fitnay maujood hain aur ham sab uss nizaam ka hissa hain jo nizaam he fitna hai.
Jab tak har shakhs apnay zaati fitnay ko theek nahi kartaa kuch honay wala nahi. Nizaam kay fitnay bhi tabhi theek hongay.
Jin baaton ko parrots fitna banaaey bethay hain woh zyada tar yaa tu Zaid jaisay logon ko sabaq sikhaanay kay liye taraashay gaey hein khud say (coz he called them do takkay ka) yaa phir khud numaai kay liye garhay murday ukhaarnay kee koshish hai.
Jo asal fitnay hain koi bataaey gaa inn so-called uelma kaa un kay baaray main kia khayaal hai? Aur unkaa kia hall paish farmaatay hain "ulema" hazraat??? Aur aaj tak kia progress kee hai in "ulema" saahibaan nay aisay fitno kay baaray main. Aur agar kee hai tu uska nateeja kia hai??? Kiyaa aisay fitno ko bhi Robinhood tu nahi bana diyaa apni kaawishon say; yaah unkay dish channel aur websites tu nahi khulwa deen???
Bhaai reham khaao logon kay haal par aur bass kar do tajruba kaariyaan logon kay faiths aur religious sentiments kay saath. Kuch theek nahi kar saktay tu kuch barbaad bhi na karo.
Issi tammana kay saath keh kaash yeh loge bhi damaagh use karnaa shuroo karein, I close down this post.
Regards,
Shani, as far as Jamshed Dasti II is concerned, this is the term I used to explain the approach of parrots. They search nothing, never apply mind, never find facts and come on to roads for jalao gheraao. Jamshed Dasti did similar thing when he opposed Women Rights bill in NA. Media asked him that he is opposing this bill, has he in fact read it thoroughly. He replied NO. Yahi haalat kuch parrots ke hai.
Ab iss bachay ka problem yeh hai keh he always clicks on others' terms and logics and straight a way start copying it. He is a copy cat you know. Har thread par kuch na kuch kisi na kisi ko copy karta hai and this has so many times been pointed out by me. So usage of term Jamshed Dasti is not his own thought; rather it is a copy cat harkat aur iss tarah ke harkaat say iss kee "parrot-ness" aur magnify ho jaati hai. You will soon see him finding some words similar to PARROTS or even COPYCAT. That's what he is upto.
Kisi ka naam lay lo bhaga bhaga search engine say information collect karta hai aur forum pay aa keh bara teer maarnay ke koshish karta hai. He just forgets keh naqal kay liyey bhi aqal darkaar hai. Aur woh uss main hoti tu 32 saal ka honay kay ba-wajood apna CMA he na qualify kar leta. I hope people must be remembering his personal particulars posted by GreatKhans.
Torontoboy has made a valid point that qadiyanis, Rushdi and Tasleema etc every one is know by people at large. Aakhir har baar inka naam lay lay kar kia saabit karna hai ham nay?? Jahaan ham tabah hain wohaan kabhi kisi Parrot ko fikar kartay dekha hai kisi nay?? Never! Ho he nahi sakta!! Bhaai jo garhay murday hain unkay baaray main buhat kuch kaha ja chuka hai, ab kaun see nai research karni hai. I agree with Toronotboy that yeh harkaat sirf unka rate bharhaa rahi hain. Aisay garhay murday jin ko dunya bhoolnay lagti hai, jin kaa naam mitnay lagtaa hai, woheen koi Parrot uth-ta hai aur koi aisee harkat kartaa hai keh woh garhay murday phir zinda honay lagtay hain. Aur iss baat ko parrots apnay eemaan ke taazgee samajhtay hain.
Believe you me Rushdi ko Robinhood banaanay aur well known karnay main sirf maulvi bhaaiyon ka haath hai. Warna woh tha he kia? Aik mamooli disputed bhatka hua writer? Aaj qadyaani 100plus countries main paaon jama kay bethay hain, kyun? Missions, websites aur dish channels khol chukay hain. Billions kay funds hain unkay paas; kyun? Aisaa kyun hua?? Solely yaaron kee apni harkaton ke wajah say. Aur ham jawan samjhtay hain keh ham nay pata nahi kaun see "nath" daal dee hai. (Yeh Nath issi parrot ka lafaz hai). Mujhay tu koi Nath nazar nahi aati. Out of Pakistan they are still muslims; even in Muslim countries. Aur Pakistan main bhi woh utnay he nazar aatey hain. Qauid-e-Azam kay wazeer-e-kharja say lay kar Ayub Khan kay wazeer-e-Khazana tak aur Parvez Musharraf kay Tariq Azeez say lay kar Zardari sahib kay Sohail Ahmed tak (generally reported names). Har jaga par. Taareekh kay har warqay par. Ab zyada samjhaao gey aur mazeed aaeena dekhaao gey tu kahen gay tum unki taraf-daari kar rahay ho ya jaisay GreatKhans ko keh bhi diyaa tha keh tum unkay follower ho. Khuda ke panaah. Yeh haal hai hamaari efforts ka aur soch ka aur Ulema kehlaanay ka bara shauq hai. Yousaf Kazzab ke he misaal lay lo. Mar khap gaya, loge bhool gaey, aadhay loge uska naam bhi nahi jaantay; par nahi!!! Hamaara maulvi (aur iss jaisay kuch aur) phir say uski bones nikaal laaey hain. Ussay zinda-o-javed Karnay ke koshish kar rahay hain. Kar lo baat. Ussko jab tak koi hero (Naoozbillah) na bana lain gey, aur jab tak aadhi dunya ko uskaa taa'ruf na kara dein gey tab tak araam thora he aaey gaa. Aur jab "mukammal araam" aa jaaey ga tab kahein gey yeh Ulema ka kaarnama hai.
Yaar kuch tu reham karo iss qaum par; kahin tu aqal aur patience ko use karo. Kuch tu proper planning say karo. Bheek saari dunya say maangtay ho aur baatein fitno ke kartay ho. Ham as a qaum sab say bara fitna hain. Iss baat ka kyun ehsaas nahi. New years par sharab aisay chalti hai jaisay europe ho, zanakaar sarkon par khulay aam ghoomtee hain, aksariyat bey-eeman aur dishonest hai, rishwat / corruption aam hai aur uskay bina aik kaam bhi nahi ho sakta, taleem aur ilaaj ab ghareeb aadmi ke bass ke baat he nahi rahay (aik 6000Rs salary wala aadmi apnay bachay ka Hepatitus B ka 16000Rs ka lab test kaisay karwa sakta hai; I personally saw such cases at Aga Khan Hospital), fuel/gas/power hamaaray paas hai he nahi iss liyey bheek kee aadat chah kar bhi nahi khatam kar saktay, paani hamara khatam ho gaya aur sab including so-called "Ulema" soey rahay, har dushman hamaaray mulak kay ander ghussa hua hai aur ham koi plan nahi rakhtay to deal with them, hamaari koi policy hamaari apni nahi, hamara koi faisla hamara apna nahi, kirdaar hamara aisa hai keh Iblees bhi sharma jaaey yaha loge qabron say dead bodies nikaal kar unkay saath bhi rape kar detay hain, zinda women ko qabron main ham dafan kar detay hain aur koi poochhta tak nahi aur baat khatam ho jati hai, kaari kar kay maar do kisi bhi aurat ko aur sab khush baash rehta hai, bhaai bhaai ka dushman hai baloch punjabi kay khoon ka dushman hai aur punjabi baloch ka, pathan Muhajir ka aur muhajir pathan ka (examples only) so on and so forth. Al-gharz ham sab main fitnay maujood hain aur ham sab uss nizaam ka hissa hain jo nizaam he fitna hai.
Jab tak har shakhs apnay zaati fitnay ko theek nahi kartaa kuch honay wala nahi. Nizaam kay fitnay bhi tabhi theek hongay.
Jin baaton ko parrots fitna banaaey bethay hain woh zyada tar yaa tu Zaid jaisay logon ko sabaq sikhaanay kay liye taraashay gaey hein khud say (coz he called them do takkay ka) yaa phir khud numaai kay liye garhay murday ukhaarnay kee koshish hai.
Jo asal fitnay hain koi bataaey gaa inn so-called uelma kaa un kay baaray main kia khayaal hai? Aur unkaa kia hall paish farmaatay hain "ulema" hazraat??? Aur aaj tak kia progress kee hai in "ulema" saahibaan nay aisay fitno kay baaray main. Aur agar kee hai tu uska nateeja kia hai??? Kiyaa aisay fitno ko bhi Robinhood tu nahi bana diyaa apni kaawishon say; yaah unkay dish channel aur websites tu nahi khulwa deen???
Bhaai reham khaao logon kay haal par aur bass kar do tajruba kaariyaan logon kay faiths aur religious sentiments kay saath. Kuch theek nahi kar saktay tu kuch barbaad bhi na karo.
Issi tammana kay saath keh kaash yeh loge bhi damaagh use karnaa shuroo karein, I close down this post.
Regards,