04-01-2010, 01:42 PM
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<br />Dear Shani
Rushdie, Tasleema Nasreen, German or Dutch newspaper publishers or Ahmadis kay baray main kisi ko koi shak nahi hay aur na hi inkay baray main koi do (two) rai hain. Ikhtilaaf sirf inkay treatment par hay, yani Mulims (Gov't and individuals) ka reaction kiss tarha ka hona chayay. Maslan apnay logon ki properties ko jala kar ham "dushman" ka konsa nuqsaan kartay hain? Aur kia aysi stikes, rallies, procesions ki call daynay walay bhi hamaray kia ham aam logon kay indirect dushman nahi hain kia? Kia death threats nay inn sab ka "rate" nahi barha dia, jo inka asal maqsaad tha. Kia yah sab karkay ham nay wohi nahi kia jo yah sab ham say karwa kar apni "cheap value and rate" main izafa karwana chahtay thay.
Bhai agar time milay to China or Iran ki diplomacy ko thanday dil say samjhnay ki koshish karna. China kay pass sab kutch hay aur pichlay 40 saal say hay magar wo kisi ko threat nahi karta. Aur Iran abhi sirf developmental phase main hi hay, aur bharkain Sultan Rahi ki hain. Nateeja ham sab kay saamnay hay. Shayad kisi jaga KamranACA nay Saddam ki misaal kafi achi di thi.
China, Iran, ya Saddam ki example samjhnay walon kay liay hain, kay iss tarhay kay problems ka treatment kiss tarha hona chayay. Warna phir apni kulhari aur apni hi taang hoti hay, ya phir khaya pia kutch nahi glass tora bara-anay (12 Anas).
Abhi Pakistan ki age sirf 63 years hay, awal din say bharkain marnay kay ilawa ham nay kutch nahi kia. Nateeja kia nikla, dunya ki har secret service hamaray ilaqon main apnay apnay game khail rahi hay. Kia ham kutch aaraam say nahi baith saktay thay kia?
Bahar haal main zara doosri taraf nikal gya tha. Now come to the point.
Shani and Awais bhai, internet age main search engine ko istamal karna koi bari baat nahi hay. Kisi ko bhi agar interest ho to wo Qadyanion ya Rushdie ya kisi aur kay baray main search karsakta hay. Magar iss tarha kisi ka bhi link lagana (including Zaid Hamid) oska "bhao barhana" hota hay. Specially agar aap osko bura aadmi samjhtay hain to iss say bachna chayay nakay market karna.
Regards
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Dear Toronto boy,
I never posted this link of Rushdie to create an issue.Rushdie ki bat chal rahi thi is may nay yeh likh dia.
Jahan tak Rushdie k rate berhne ka taluk hai to main nay aik TV program main khud suna tha AKBAR BUGTI ko yeh kehte k RUSHDIE was one of his favourite novelist.Allah jis ko jitna fame/notoriety dena chaye day day.
In neither of my post I have said Zaid as a Kafir.Mujhe to Zaid or even Yousuf k bare main pata hi nahi tha.Zaid ko TV peh dekha tha per interest nahi lia.If he claims to be a muslim then it is acceptable for me.Mery bala say to agar Rushdie bhi khud ko Muslim kehta hai to main kon hota ho object kerne wala ya use qatal kerne wala.But I have read Satanic Verses.It was heinous and odious.Beherhal woh aik Novel tha aur is ka literary jawab kia hoga meri samgh main nahin ata.I am against violence , chaye woh Benazir k marne per ho ya kisi sectarian larai per whatever.
I have spent a good part of my life in hostels and I know 3 qadianis personally.One of them currently in CA's C module.I know how they pray and how they portray their religion.One of them claimed to be a HAJJI.I believe them to be NON MUSLIMS.But woh khud yeh nahi kehte.Woh to hamain farigh ker dayte hain.
As far as China is,to agar ham as nation 63 years k hain to China bhi(as current Independent state) 61 years ka hai.Hum yahan ghalti per dat jatay hain aur phir us ko sahi sabit kerne per lag jate hain.Woh apni ghaltian suthartay hain.China to bara mulk hai , even Venezuela (Hugo Chavez) America ko ankh dikhata hai.Hum to yahan CA/ACCA peh lartay hain!
<br />Dear Shani
Rushdie, Tasleema Nasreen, German or Dutch newspaper publishers or Ahmadis kay baray main kisi ko koi shak nahi hay aur na hi inkay baray main koi do (two) rai hain. Ikhtilaaf sirf inkay treatment par hay, yani Mulims (Gov't and individuals) ka reaction kiss tarha ka hona chayay. Maslan apnay logon ki properties ko jala kar ham "dushman" ka konsa nuqsaan kartay hain? Aur kia aysi stikes, rallies, procesions ki call daynay walay bhi hamaray kia ham aam logon kay indirect dushman nahi hain kia? Kia death threats nay inn sab ka "rate" nahi barha dia, jo inka asal maqsaad tha. Kia yah sab karkay ham nay wohi nahi kia jo yah sab ham say karwa kar apni "cheap value and rate" main izafa karwana chahtay thay.
Bhai agar time milay to China or Iran ki diplomacy ko thanday dil say samjhnay ki koshish karna. China kay pass sab kutch hay aur pichlay 40 saal say hay magar wo kisi ko threat nahi karta. Aur Iran abhi sirf developmental phase main hi hay, aur bharkain Sultan Rahi ki hain. Nateeja ham sab kay saamnay hay. Shayad kisi jaga KamranACA nay Saddam ki misaal kafi achi di thi.
China, Iran, ya Saddam ki example samjhnay walon kay liay hain, kay iss tarhay kay problems ka treatment kiss tarha hona chayay. Warna phir apni kulhari aur apni hi taang hoti hay, ya phir khaya pia kutch nahi glass tora bara-anay (12 Anas).
Abhi Pakistan ki age sirf 63 years hay, awal din say bharkain marnay kay ilawa ham nay kutch nahi kia. Nateeja kia nikla, dunya ki har secret service hamaray ilaqon main apnay apnay game khail rahi hay. Kia ham kutch aaraam say nahi baith saktay thay kia?
Bahar haal main zara doosri taraf nikal gya tha. Now come to the point.
Shani and Awais bhai, internet age main search engine ko istamal karna koi bari baat nahi hay. Kisi ko bhi agar interest ho to wo Qadyanion ya Rushdie ya kisi aur kay baray main search karsakta hay. Magar iss tarha kisi ka bhi link lagana (including Zaid Hamid) oska "bhao barhana" hota hay. Specially agar aap osko bura aadmi samjhtay hain to iss say bachna chayay nakay market karna.
Regards
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Dear Toronto boy,
I never posted this link of Rushdie to create an issue.Rushdie ki bat chal rahi thi is may nay yeh likh dia.
Jahan tak Rushdie k rate berhne ka taluk hai to main nay aik TV program main khud suna tha AKBAR BUGTI ko yeh kehte k RUSHDIE was one of his favourite novelist.Allah jis ko jitna fame/notoriety dena chaye day day.
In neither of my post I have said Zaid as a Kafir.Mujhe to Zaid or even Yousuf k bare main pata hi nahi tha.Zaid ko TV peh dekha tha per interest nahi lia.If he claims to be a muslim then it is acceptable for me.Mery bala say to agar Rushdie bhi khud ko Muslim kehta hai to main kon hota ho object kerne wala ya use qatal kerne wala.But I have read Satanic Verses.It was heinous and odious.Beherhal woh aik Novel tha aur is ka literary jawab kia hoga meri samgh main nahin ata.I am against violence , chaye woh Benazir k marne per ho ya kisi sectarian larai per whatever.
I have spent a good part of my life in hostels and I know 3 qadianis personally.One of them currently in CA's C module.I know how they pray and how they portray their religion.One of them claimed to be a HAJJI.I believe them to be NON MUSLIMS.But woh khud yeh nahi kehte.Woh to hamain farigh ker dayte hain.
As far as China is,to agar ham as nation 63 years k hain to China bhi(as current Independent state) 61 years ka hai.Hum yahan ghalti per dat jatay hain aur phir us ko sahi sabit kerne per lag jate hain.Woh apni ghaltian suthartay hain.China to bara mulk hai , even Venezuela (Hugo Chavez) America ko ankh dikhata hai.Hum to yahan CA/ACCA peh lartay hain!
