04-01-2010, 09:39 PM
<font color="red">Jamshaid Dasti Part II says about fatway Qatal of Imam Khumenie
Yet I differ with this particular Fatwa and this is not a sin. I have a different view point and different stand on this matter.</font id="red">
Dears Imam Khumenie se to wo ikhtilaf kare jo Ahle Tashi hone ki surat main Ayatullah ho ya Sunni hone ke sorat main Mufti ya sheikh ul Hadees ho. Tum kia tumhari auqat kia ek hadees ati nhn ha aur Hazrat farama rahay hain âmain imam khumenie se ikhtilaf kerta hun salman rushdie k fatway peâ Kuja pidi kuja piddi ka shorba yeh monh aur masoor ki daal. Yeh to wohi baat hoyee k koyee ICOM ka bacha IASâs /IFRS pe eitraz kare aur kahe main falane mamle pe IFAC se ikhtilaf kerta hun.
<font color="red">Jamshed Dasati Part II Says
Khumeni sahib koi maulvi nahi thay; rather he was a great scholar, thinker, social reformer and philospher. Yahaan cheap maulvi unka naam lay kar apni khaal nahi bacha saktay</font id="red">
<font color="green">Do you know about the term Ayattullah ?</font id="green">
Yar qun apna mazaq ban wa rahe ho ager kisi bat ka pata na huwa kare to search engine hi use kerlia kero. Lakin search engine use kerne k liay bhee thori aqal chaye hoti ha jo tumaharay demagh main nhn balke godon sorry takhnon main ha. Imam Khumenie got his education from Madrasa Hawza at Mashhad.
<font color="purple">The degree/rank of Ayyatullah is granted in Fiqahe Jafria after a tough examination/studies to the persons who have qualified Darse Kharij (examination of Aalim in Fiqahe Jafria like Darse Nizamee of Sunniees).There are only few Ayyatullahs in Ahle Tashi of Pakistan according to information provided me by my Ahle Tashi friends and only some dozens in Indian Muslims. </font id="purple">
Yeh shaks ek jaga kehta ha
<font color="red">It's good to listen that now he is following Imam Khumeni Sahib and as such has declared his-self among Ahl-e-Tashi. Chalo kuch tu saaf hua. BTW, what will happen if some one will quote here some of his bak bak about Ahl-e-Tashi?</font id="red">
Jab k dosri jaga likhta ha
<font color="green">âIn the matter of Fatwa against Rushdi, I don't agree with this Fatwa and I don't have fear of a cheap maulvi who is trying to provoke our Ahl-e-Tashi brothers to speak against me.â </font id="green">
See the contradiction bhaion main ne to kabhi kisi sect k bare main baat nhn kee ager kee ha to suboot do jo shaks ilzam lagat ha burden of proof us pe hota ha. Ye shaks asal main Khud shia bhion ko mere khilaf bharka raha ha aur blame mujh ko de raha ha k main Ahle Tashi ko is k khilaf bharka raha hun.
At one place this mental patient writes
Naeemee sb ka internet say profile jhat say dhoond laaey apni baat ka roab jamaanay k liye laikan damaagh ka istemaal nahi kia keh thori tehqeeq he kar loon. Just go to their institute and see how it is managed
Have you visited any madrasâs tum ko to yeh tak nhn pata k Sheikh-ul-Hadison ka nisab kia hota ha. Tum ek lakh jaga proof ker chuke ho k tum ko madrson k nizam, syllabus,exams, courses k bare main KUKH bhee nhn pata.
Mufti Sarfraz Naeemi was an Aalim and Secretary of Tanzeem Ul Madaris. Bataya bhee ha k Tanzeem Ul Madaris Kia ha prir bhee bat aqal main nhn ayee how we exclude a Aalim from the ulemahs who was the secretary of an organization under which thousands of Madaris are working.
It is amazing for all who have knowledge of madrsa education that Jamshed Dasti part II says
<font color="orange">Hadeeson kee ta'daad kia word "parrots" kay against ginwaai hai? It's amazing effort. Bhayya ta'daad say kia hota hai. Tehqeeq bhi karo aur samjho bhi. I am sorry to say but just to remind that rattaa tu "perrots" bhi acha lagaatey hain</font id="orange">
At another place he writes
<font color="orange">AGAR AMAL NAHI TU PHIR RATTA LAGANA waisa he hai jaisaa mainay sorry kay saath bola tha. Nahi samjh aati baat ke tu fazool main damaagh kyun khapaatay ho betaa?</font id="orange">
Allah ki panah âTakhasus Fill Hadeesâ k syllabus ka pata nhn balke yeh term hi pheli dafa suni ha aur batain dekho. Yani âTakhasus Fill Hadeesâ main is jahill shaks ki aqal k mutabiq sirf hadeesain ratwayee jatin hain. Allah k bande Sahe Satta ke sari kitabain to Darse Nizamee k students shroo k salon main hi parh lete hain. Bhaye Mustashriqeen bhee islam pe tanqeed likhne se phele poori tehqiq kertain hain ager tanqeed ka shoq ha to thori see research k bad kero
Aur ek baat tumhare bête ko Hifz kerwane k liay kia farishtay asman se nazil honge . Balke shaid tum ko pata na ho jo log hifz kerwate hain wo to 99% sirf Qari aur Hafiz hote hain unhon ne to Darse Nizami bhee nhn kia hota na wo fazil arabi hote hain. I know k kuch Moderate and progressive /secular log bhee apne bachon ko hifz kerwatain take un k NATWAN kandhon pe bhet k Janat main ja sakain.
Jo batain tum ker rahe ho unse zahir hota ha k tum ne ajtak kisi tafseer kia kisi deni kitab ka bhee mutalla nhn kia. Jaisa k Ayatullah ki term pe main ne tumharee jahalat sabit kerdi. Jab tak insane khamosh rahe uski jhalat choppy rehti ha jab zuban kenchi ki trah chalna shuroo ho jay to sab ko pata chal jata ha k agla banda kitne pani main ha.
Yet I differ with this particular Fatwa and this is not a sin. I have a different view point and different stand on this matter.</font id="red">
Dears Imam Khumenie se to wo ikhtilaf kare jo Ahle Tashi hone ki surat main Ayatullah ho ya Sunni hone ke sorat main Mufti ya sheikh ul Hadees ho. Tum kia tumhari auqat kia ek hadees ati nhn ha aur Hazrat farama rahay hain âmain imam khumenie se ikhtilaf kerta hun salman rushdie k fatway peâ Kuja pidi kuja piddi ka shorba yeh monh aur masoor ki daal. Yeh to wohi baat hoyee k koyee ICOM ka bacha IASâs /IFRS pe eitraz kare aur kahe main falane mamle pe IFAC se ikhtilaf kerta hun.
<font color="red">Jamshed Dasati Part II Says
Khumeni sahib koi maulvi nahi thay; rather he was a great scholar, thinker, social reformer and philospher. Yahaan cheap maulvi unka naam lay kar apni khaal nahi bacha saktay</font id="red">
<font color="green">Do you know about the term Ayattullah ?</font id="green">
Yar qun apna mazaq ban wa rahe ho ager kisi bat ka pata na huwa kare to search engine hi use kerlia kero. Lakin search engine use kerne k liay bhee thori aqal chaye hoti ha jo tumaharay demagh main nhn balke godon sorry takhnon main ha. Imam Khumenie got his education from Madrasa Hawza at Mashhad.
<font color="purple">The degree/rank of Ayyatullah is granted in Fiqahe Jafria after a tough examination/studies to the persons who have qualified Darse Kharij (examination of Aalim in Fiqahe Jafria like Darse Nizamee of Sunniees).There are only few Ayyatullahs in Ahle Tashi of Pakistan according to information provided me by my Ahle Tashi friends and only some dozens in Indian Muslims. </font id="purple">
Yeh shaks ek jaga kehta ha
<font color="red">It's good to listen that now he is following Imam Khumeni Sahib and as such has declared his-self among Ahl-e-Tashi. Chalo kuch tu saaf hua. BTW, what will happen if some one will quote here some of his bak bak about Ahl-e-Tashi?</font id="red">
Jab k dosri jaga likhta ha
<font color="green">âIn the matter of Fatwa against Rushdi, I don't agree with this Fatwa and I don't have fear of a cheap maulvi who is trying to provoke our Ahl-e-Tashi brothers to speak against me.â </font id="green">
See the contradiction bhaion main ne to kabhi kisi sect k bare main baat nhn kee ager kee ha to suboot do jo shaks ilzam lagat ha burden of proof us pe hota ha. Ye shaks asal main Khud shia bhion ko mere khilaf bharka raha ha aur blame mujh ko de raha ha k main Ahle Tashi ko is k khilaf bharka raha hun.
At one place this mental patient writes
Naeemee sb ka internet say profile jhat say dhoond laaey apni baat ka roab jamaanay k liye laikan damaagh ka istemaal nahi kia keh thori tehqeeq he kar loon. Just go to their institute and see how it is managed
Have you visited any madrasâs tum ko to yeh tak nhn pata k Sheikh-ul-Hadison ka nisab kia hota ha. Tum ek lakh jaga proof ker chuke ho k tum ko madrson k nizam, syllabus,exams, courses k bare main KUKH bhee nhn pata.
Mufti Sarfraz Naeemi was an Aalim and Secretary of Tanzeem Ul Madaris. Bataya bhee ha k Tanzeem Ul Madaris Kia ha prir bhee bat aqal main nhn ayee how we exclude a Aalim from the ulemahs who was the secretary of an organization under which thousands of Madaris are working.
It is amazing for all who have knowledge of madrsa education that Jamshed Dasti part II says
<font color="orange">Hadeeson kee ta'daad kia word "parrots" kay against ginwaai hai? It's amazing effort. Bhayya ta'daad say kia hota hai. Tehqeeq bhi karo aur samjho bhi. I am sorry to say but just to remind that rattaa tu "perrots" bhi acha lagaatey hain</font id="orange">
At another place he writes
<font color="orange">AGAR AMAL NAHI TU PHIR RATTA LAGANA waisa he hai jaisaa mainay sorry kay saath bola tha. Nahi samjh aati baat ke tu fazool main damaagh kyun khapaatay ho betaa?</font id="orange">
Allah ki panah âTakhasus Fill Hadeesâ k syllabus ka pata nhn balke yeh term hi pheli dafa suni ha aur batain dekho. Yani âTakhasus Fill Hadeesâ main is jahill shaks ki aqal k mutabiq sirf hadeesain ratwayee jatin hain. Allah k bande Sahe Satta ke sari kitabain to Darse Nizamee k students shroo k salon main hi parh lete hain. Bhaye Mustashriqeen bhee islam pe tanqeed likhne se phele poori tehqiq kertain hain ager tanqeed ka shoq ha to thori see research k bad kero
Aur ek baat tumhare bête ko Hifz kerwane k liay kia farishtay asman se nazil honge . Balke shaid tum ko pata na ho jo log hifz kerwate hain wo to 99% sirf Qari aur Hafiz hote hain unhon ne to Darse Nizami bhee nhn kia hota na wo fazil arabi hote hain. I know k kuch Moderate and progressive /secular log bhee apne bachon ko hifz kerwatain take un k NATWAN kandhon pe bhet k Janat main ja sakain.
Jo batain tum ker rahe ho unse zahir hota ha k tum ne ajtak kisi tafseer kia kisi deni kitab ka bhee mutalla nhn kia. Jaisa k Ayatullah ki term pe main ne tumharee jahalat sabit kerdi. Jab tak insane khamosh rahe uski jhalat choppy rehti ha jab zuban kenchi ki trah chalna shuroo ho jay to sab ko pata chal jata ha k agla banda kitne pani main ha.